1969 CHP Polara

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Alan knows the car, all three were together at my old office after a car show a few years ago. It isn't finished as nice cosmetically as either Alan's or Ron's, but it's real and runs incredibly well. Actually, I never saw ANY patrol car finished like Ron's when I was on the department! ;)

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Alan knows the car, all three were together at my old office after a car show a few years ago. It isn't finished as nice cosmetically as either Alan's or Ron's, but it's real and runs incredibly well. Actually, I never saw ANY patrol car finished like Ron's when I was on the department! ;)

I wasn't around then I so I cannot comment on what the cars looked like then.

I would assume the cars closely resembled new cars when they were first delivered. Ron's car does have an exceptional paint job as do most restorations, his interior is as clean as any new car and correctly equipped with CHP used equipment. Underhood does need some work to make it correct but for the most part it looks like a car that has some miles on it (with little work it cleans up nice). His trunk does have the correct radio, first aid kit and fire extinguisher, he does not show the car with the trunk open and does not have the goody box.

My car will closely follow Ron's and in some ways be better. Like Ron's my car will look like the day it was delivered to the area office.

Your car looks nice and presents itself well and I'm sure it will turn heads, heck so does my beeter Polara.


Your car is an excellent candidate for a restoration and it wouldn't take anywhere as much effort as either of my car or Ron's.


Alan
 
Thanks Alan. I was around for a number of the patrol cars-St Regis, Diplomats, Mustangs, Caprices and even one last 440 that the veterans at the time had hidden in the back(and wouldn't let any of us rooks drive!).
You are correct-none had paint jobs as nice as Ron's or your car-even when delivered. The labor of love that you guys have performed with the CHP restos are indeed impressive. My car is more in line visually, as how the squads would have looked while in service-presentable and clean, but still exhibiting a few bumps and scrapes here and there. There were no corners cut with this car's drive train, however, and I doubt a better performing CHP Polara exists anywhere. I would agree that my starting point would have made a full resto much easier, although I don't believe this car needs one-depending on it's intended usage. I built mine so that it could drive anywhere/anytime at an optimum performance level for this package. It can cruise 350 miles on the open road to Vegas or make a pass down the dragstrip. Should someone decide to take it to the next level, correcting the seat upholstery/dash and a few interior details would be simple enough.
Here is a youtube of my car heading to the Vegas event(I'm on the left)
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Very nice! I'm guessing at least $15K to put the car in your garage.
 
Alan knows the car, all three were together at my old office after a car show a few years ago. It isn't finished as nice cosmetically as either Alan's or Ron's, but it's real and runs incredibly well. Actually, I never saw ANY patrol car finished like Ron's when I was on the department!
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Although both cars (Ron's and Alan's) are very well executed restorations, they are "over restored".

Chrysler NEVER built, painted, and finished the cars to the level of these restorations. Sans possibly a Y28, Y91, Y92 car.

Correctly, there should be over-spray, numerous obvious paint runs, massive orange peal, loose or ill fitting trim etc., etc., especially on a fleet vehicle.

I really like the car in question, it's perfect, drive and enjoy.
 
This thread is great! Mine is almost road-worthy, too. Runs as smooth as butter. Everything is there, too: Leece Neville alternator, rubber floor mat, ivory wheel, etc. Still needs front floor replacement due to Fred Flintstone size rust holes. Just got correct dog dish caps and new tires. New, correct interior will be installed. I finally got a dash upper, too. Looking forward to cruising soon! Will never be as nice as Ron's, but a good cruiser anyway.
 
Although both cars (Ron's and Alan's) are very well executed restorations, they are "over restored".

Chrysler NEVER built, painted, and finished the cars to the level of these restorations. Sans possibly a Y28, Y91, Y92 car.

Correctly, there should be over-spray, numerous obvious paint runs, massive orange peal, loose or ill fitting trim etc., etc., especially on a fleet vehicle.

I really like the car in question, it's perfect, drive and enjoy.

First up I'll take that as a complement especially from someone who hasn't seen the car in person.

Here is my over restore belly, as it sits RIGHT NOW.
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The reality is I didn't want to go to the effort to paint the car with an orange peal but on the other hand it does have a pretty good ripple to the finish, my Barracuda probably has a better finish. My car will have the trim installed on the factory studs, the quarters and fender trim will not lineup with the door trim. As for the lack of overspray (under hood I assume), it will be gone the first time you service it (replace hoses, cables etc.), exhaust burn off within days. To me those are examples of over restored cars, I chose to go to the effort to detail my front end and engine compartment to look like new for an extended time.

My car is a good example of a car that will show well but would not hold up to the scrutiny of the true purest. It is being restored to be driven and look good for a long time.
Ron's car has a great paint job but already needs to be buffed out again, it looks like a car that has some miles on it, lots of towel marks from cleaning. His under hood looks like a car with 50k on it and multiple restoration errors.

The objective of these restorations is to A restore the cars, neither Ron's or mine were anywhere neer presentable when found. B to closely replicate the way it left the factory and later CHP Motor Transport and C to preserve the CHP heritage Both of our cars are far from prefect, don't let pictures fool you, it is the internet and I'm a pretty good photographer.

In my opinion my car is not over restored, if you have a rusted part it will need refinishing, paint it the correct color and put it together. No concessions have been made to alter the way the car is going together. Including purchase, engine rebuild new interior, rebuilt trans, chrome bumpers, dash pad, steering wheel... I probably have about $20-$25k TOTAL investment in this project, most "over restored" projects have more than that in just their paint.

Done with my rant back to the regularly scheduled post.


Nice car Steve, I hope you do well with it!


Alan
 
It is a cool thread! The money was spent on this car where you can't see it-it's a mean SOB. I remember kicking up rocks in the center divider at 100MPH, slamming a combative perp on the hood or trunk lid,sliding a metal posse box on the car,etc. There was never much effort made in keeping these things pristine that's for sure. They were washed regularly and religiously maintained-that's about it. I think between the folks on this thread, we have probably over half of the real 69's still on the road!
Obviously I'm more concerned with go, than show:
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Thanks Alan! We are all thankful that you and Ron have gone to the effort to figure out what's correct for these cars. Hopefully you will be driving yours soon, as that's where the real fun starts. I have a real CHP 68 Polara as well that needs a lot. It will be a better fit for my Vanishing Point Challenger, even though I like the 69 cars appearance better. I wouldn't sell it as I really like the car-storage is a problem in SoCal though.

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I find it interesting that so many talk about the speed of these cars but so few mention what was done to them to make them that fast.....
 
Do the California Licence Plates come with the car? I sent you a email through ebay.

Dave

Hi Dave, I will probably keep the California plates for my 68 CHP Polara. I do have a nice set of black E plates that I can include though.

I find it interesting that so many talk about the speed of these cars but so few mention what was done to them to make them that fast.....

Well, you drop a 440 Magnum into just about anything and it will go pretty well. The CHP Polaras were not that heavy and were geared for top speed.
 
I find it interesting that so many talk about the speed of these cars but so few mention what was done to them to make them that fast.....

Standard HP 440 Magnum
3.23:1 gears
28.5" dia tires

No special cam, so special pistons, no special carburetor, no special distributor.


Alan
 
Standard HP 440 Magnum
3.23:1 gears
28.5" dia tires

No special cam, so special pistons, no special carburetor, no special distributor.


Alan

Yup, that's the ticket. Although, once the units hit the area offices, A good ASM could extract even more performance. Back in the days of the supertune, special carb and distributor tweaks could really make a difference. Also heard tales of some pretty wild stuff back in the day-headers,cams,etc. One legend has it that an outlying desert office even dropped a twin carb Hemi in one of their pursuit cars-imagine finding a pic of that!
As having the fastest unit was a point of pride back in the 60s, it was even said that CHP and LAPD would square off, late night on the freeways. Pontiacs VS Mopars on the I-10!
 
Hi Dave, I will probably keep the California plates for my 68 CHP Polara. I do have a nice set of black E plates that I can include though.



Well, you drop a 440 Magnum into just about anything and it will go pretty well. The CHP Polaras were not that heavy and were geared for top speed.

Standard HP 440 Magnum
3.23:1 gears
28.5" dia tires

No special cam, so special pistons, no special carburetor, no special distributor.


Alan


Then you guys haven't talked to or heard the stories from the guys that used to turn the wrenches on them....

Track down Krautmaster on the Drydock, what he has to say will astound you.
 
Then you guys haven't talked to or heard the stories from the guys that used to turn the wrenches on them....

Track down Krautmaster on the Drydock, what he has to say will astound you.

He may have been one of the people modifying them but from the factory they were nothing special.

Unless he work for some other agency that got "special" engines.


I need proof, nothing I have from Dodge on these cars reflect anything different.

Unless the CHP modified my car back to stock, I know the previous owner didn't touch the engine, I am number three owner on mine, the engine didn't look to ever have been opened.



Alan
 
Alan is correct. At least with the CHP, they were all standard 440 Magnum mills(obviously the cars themselves had mods) when delivered to motor transport. What happened after they hit the area offices is entirely different.
 
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