For Sale 1970 Chrysler 300 H Hurst Edition - $1

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The seller seems to be representing it as a 26K miles car, but I wonder given that the brake pedal trim dress up is worn through on the lower right side and the radio is not the correct one for 1970 - did they go bad that fast? It does look low miles in other respects though, but maybe a lot of prep..........................
 
Well he has new exhaust pipe on the car with the NAPA label still on. New rear hangers also. Fairly pitted side view mirror. Does that look like painting chipping top of drivers rear quarter, among other tops, with white paint under it? A repaint it seems to me. Those areas of rippling look like what happens when the paint layer is too thick and when the paint contracts the thickness can't accommodate the change the way a thin layer can.

He does talk a lot about the history of the 300 but precious little comment on the actual car. I'll go with 126,000 miles since the odds he he a completely honest Ebay seller is small.

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shouldn't there be roset type rivets for that tag? just wondering if tags been removed for some reason.........
 
shouldn't there be roset type rivets for that tag? just wondering if tags been removed for some reason.........

I do not believe so, as the Jefferson plant that built the Chrysler and Imperial models used screws in that year, although those screws don't look exactly like the ones I am used to (the ones on this HUrst have a little molded in flange at the bottom, which is usually not on the ones I recall, just the plain round head phillips screws). Dodge and Plymouth plants did use some plain rivets on the C body models for the fender tags, but Carsten could tell you with more certainty. I believe Rosette rivets were only used on VIN tags at all the plants though.
 
I do not believe so, as the Jefferson plant that built the Chrysler and Imperial models used screws in that year, although those screws don't look exactly like the ones I am used to (the ones on this HUrst have a little molded in flange at the bottom, which is usually not on the ones I recall, just the plain round head phillips screws). Dodge and Plymouth plants did use some plain rivets on the C body models for the fender tags, but Carsten could tell you with more certainty. I believe Rosette rivets were only used on VIN tags at all the plants though.



Yep,...incorrect fasteners for the "Fender Tag".

Anything is possible,....I've never seen TEK screws used for a "Fender Tag". Call them Philips head flange screw, used for interior pieces, speaker mounts etc. etc.

Its' likely been off the car,...why?

Replace them with the originals, not hard to do,..the car is worth it, it appears to be a nice original ride.

Here's a Hurst tag with correct fasteners.....
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Nice specimen. In spite of the padded (early '80's Cordoba?) steering wheel, a sown-and-padded arm rest on driver's side door, and ill fitting carpet. - I suppose the fender tag was off while the car was painted. Look at the paint under the tag: it is cracked all over. The radiator support has had a sloppy overspray, no preparatory work whatsoever.

In spite of that, a very nice car.
 
A repaint it seems to me. Those areas of rippling look like what happens when the paint layer is too thick and when the paint contracts the thickness can't accommodate the change the way a thin layer can.

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Don't ask me what happened here or what Chrysler did, I have exactly the same phenomenon on my Hurst which definitely never had a repaint since it came in the possesion of the original owner. Like it was completely painted over once more after the paint underneath was completely dry. Not a trace of taping, overspray etc. with original pinstripes and decals.

Not completely ruling out a repaint here though, definitely messed around in the area with the tags.
 
Don't ask me what happened here or what Chrysler did, I have exactly the same phenomenon on my Hurst which definitely never had a repaint since it came in the possesion of the original owner. Like it was completely painted over once more after the paint underneath was completely dry. Not a trace of taping, overspray etc. with original pinstripes and decals.

Not completely ruling out a repaint here though, definitely messed around in the area with the tags.

With a second layer of color underneath it strongly suggests a repaint. My Cougar had a repaint, due to an accident, in January 1970. There are now three surface chips on the trunk which sustained no damage but just the repaint to match. The chips look just like the one I showed here with color underneath. Identical but smaller. The hood, where the damage was sustained has no issues since it was stripped to bare metal.

The cracks are what some call cracks in the mud. What you see when a river bed goes dry and the surface forms cracks all over. Happens when the paint layer undergos the inevitable expanding and contracting. Thick paint layers have a hard time reacting together with the base metal and so the cracks. Another example of a flaw would be laying down either too much paint in a session of not allowing enough flash off time. The lower film layer has not had enough time to vent off solvent fumes and as a result you get those little solvent pop bubbles all over.

So if that car had two repaints with the thickness above 9 mils then it cannot be just repainted. It will need to be stripped and painted from scratch. That not only takes times but lots of money for a pro to do it. Easily 8K outside of California. Whether the bidders see that issue or not is their problem.

I will say that those top three bidders right now do not seem to be Mopar fans to me as evidenced by what they are bidding on elsewhere.
 
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