For Sale 1979 Plymouth - $1800

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I don't recognize this at all especially with the hidden headlights. It is big though

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/5227829516.html

I'm selling my 1979 Plymouth.
I'm asking $1600 or best offer!
Take it off my hands. 6507220002

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Looks like an R body Chrysler to me - New Yorker perhaps. How did they come up with Plymouth? I recall the Dodge St. Regis models that were similar but no Plymouths. I thought those were desirable, nice driving cars and the price ain't bad. Interior looks nice too.
 
Looks like an R body Chrysler to me - New Yorker perhaps. How did they come up with Plymouth? I recall the Dodge St. Regis models that were similar but no Plymouths. I thought those were desirable, nice driving cars and the price ain't bad. Interior looks nice too.

The Plymouth Gran Fury was also an "R"-body in the years 1979 - 1981. I had a '79 New Yorker from 2005 - 2007. All of the 49-state New Yorkers had 360s, where the Calif-spec cars had 318, from what I understand. In the Dodges and Plymouths, you could get a 225, 318, or 360.
 
The Plymouth Gran Fury was also an "R"-body in the years 1979 - 1981. I had a '79 New Yorker from 2005 - 2007. All of the 49-state New Yorkers had 360s, where the Calif-spec cars had 318, from what I understand. In the Dodges and Plymouths, you could get a 225, 318, or 360.

As I recall, all the California engines were 4 bbl - 318-4, 360-4 in these models and years. The Federal 2 bbl engines were not available. This was after the Federal release engines when modified for California had such poor driveablility, the Air Resources Board made Chrysler recall them in 1977. When emission testing them, they routinely stalled 6 or more times trying to run the emission tests. The guys doing the calibrations in Detroit could care less about the California cars and how they drove. They just retarded timing more than the Federal packages and added more EGR, customer be damned. The California engineering contingent went ahead and developed much better packages that drove smoothly and didn't stall, and the CHP wanted more performance anyway, so Thermoquads were the only package in California from 1978 and on for a few years at least. They drove better than the federal packages and had lower tailpipe emissions. It was no surprise that Chrysler went bankrupt a couple years later.
 
They were good cars. I had a 80' plymouth Gran Fury former Police car. It handled great, stopped very well, and was comfortable. The 360 ran well. More power would have made it a really nice car.
 

For the guy writing the article that said he never set foot in one of these R bodies, he certainly has his opinions and isn't shy about voicing them. Unfortunately, he is pretty much dead wrong. I drove those R bodies a lot when I worked at Chrysler, and they were great cars to drive. And the CHP cars were really nice, and they had good performing 360-4 bbls, beefed up suspensions and sway bars front and rear that delivered great handling . The 318-4 bbls were mostly used in fleet M bodies, not in CHP cruisers. One of the problems with the 318-4 bbl engines is that one of the engineering managers at Chrysler would not approve a special intake manifold for it - they were forced to use the 360-4 manifold due to cost of casting a new part. The problem with using the 360-4 bbl intake on a 318 was that the intake runners were too big for the engine. That meant that the velocities of the fuel/air charge into the engine were too slow for optimum performance (torque).

The real problems with the vehicles in that time period was Lean Burn, a very bad idea and implemented badly with unreliable electronics. I really liked the 81 - 83 Imperials too, although their fuel injection system was not reliable to a fault. It was designed such that any small leak in the induction system of any kind rendered the car undriveable - and that is why they were recalled and carburetors were installed instead. There were quality problems near the bankruptcy, but they weren't that bad in my opinion. And I thought the interior materials were pretty good for the seats, but the door panels and the instrument panels were overly cheap and the plastics often cracked and the side mirrors didn't hold up.

Styling is a matter of taste, but I liked the R body looks quite a bit, and they didn't look like eveyone elses cars. The writer also thinks somehow that the downsized GM cars in the early 80s were great cars, but the truth is that they were real junk and didn't hold up well at all. I would never own one of those, but I would have no problem owning the R bodies.
 
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