4 speed in a wagon

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My wife wants me to put a 4 speed in her wagon. Did they put them in wagons and What all would I need to do the swap? I know I want to put a 440 in it at the same time, Besides bell housing is there anything different from the small block?
 
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You're gonna need a bigger windshield!......... You'll never get both your smiles behind that one, once you start ripping through the gears in your BB 4SPD WAGON!! Go get em killer!
 
My wife wants me to put a 4 speed in her wagon. Did they put them in wagons and What all would I need to do the swap? I know I want to put a 440 in it at the same time, Besides bell housing is there anything different from the small block?
Here is an assembly diagram to help... the 4 speed should be doable, but I think the 440 will crush it.
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Perhaps telling us more about what wagon you are working on will get better advice.:rolleyes:
 
Boy if my wife said she would want a four speed in my car I would be all over it, but you will find it is very hard now to find what you need for the conversion.

I would do some research here, there are other guys trying to do the same time. It has been discussed
 
There is the odd factory 4 speed C body wagon. Very rare and technically not available from the factory, but some did get made. I know and have pictures somewhere of a 66 Fury III 440 4-speed wagon in white w/a blue interior... special order Arizona car IIRC...

What year and make/model is yours?

If it is a 69 and up it will be a true custom... there were only 3 speed column shift manual trans cars made for those years, and while some of those parts will function in a 4 speed conversion (like pedal and Z bar assemblies), you'll one of only a few pioneers who have attempted such a conversion.

C body 4 speeds were made from 65-68 so it gets a bit more acheivable since the factory already went and engineered it for you. Those cars are very rare but enough were made that all the parts are out there needed to do the swap. An original 4 speed equipped donor car would be ideal to provide all the info and parts etc... It's NOT a simple procedure... and trying to assemble one without a reference will be very difficult.

I own a 4 speed Monaco and an automatic car as well, and therefore know firsthand what the differences are.

Be prepared to drop the front subframe to weld on the Z bar mount. You will be required to cut the front floor out and weld in the proper 4 speed hump. There are many fiddly bits needed to do it right so again - research.
 
well not sure of your c bodies year . but this came from a 66 c body . just to convert it from column shift to standard a833 4spd trans . oh and yes on 4spd wagons , with hp motors as well . here a pic of my wagon . and one i converted . its a hit when i bring it out . great ate it , lol .
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Ahaha. I'm going 4spd with my 65 fury wagon. It is/was a 383 wagon but the fender tag is long gone so now it's whatever I want it to be. I'm going to try and find the parts for factory like install, but if it gets too spendy, I'm just going to go wilwood and a hydraulic clutch.
 
that pic i posted is the parts you need . and juice clutch releases and a833 tranny's is not a cheap setup . the z bar and its frame mount bracket is the tuff parts to come up with . hese some of that z bar . people have used there b and a body ones with heavy mods .
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more pics of the z bar . you could piece it all together , i think the trans mount might be the same as the auto in 65 , but 66 started linkage to the 727 trans . the mounts are different location on the 65 has a cable on the tail stock for park as the 64 to 69 . were the mount is on the 66 up 727 , and 70 up a833 uses the same mount location . but a boidy a833 trans is 64 up , with the mount location as the 70 up a833 , pretty sure of this difference ,
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my a833 rack , it holds 12 a833's . and i've still got some laying on the floor to trip on . lol .
 
if l had a wife that wanted a 4 speed on a wagon ld be on it dam quick whether they came with them or not...your a lucky man sir
 
that pic i posted is the parts you need . and juice clutch releases and a833 tranny's is not a cheap setup .

Compared to trying to source a complete stock setup can be more costly... and may not be available at all, as I'm running in to. I'm all for a mechanical clutch, but I won't be waiting 2 years for an reasonably priced "complete" setup... though I remain hopeful. Just the stock pedal assembly (for a 65 in my case) is over $300, minus the linkage. But I don't have the drive train yet, so there's still time. But once those things are taken care of, I won't sit idle for the lack of a mechanical setup. :)
 
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