Battery Question
- Thread starter Omni
- Start date
Group 27, red cap, non tar top.
Seems like Group 24 was standard (non-a/c) and Group 27 was optional as the upgrade w/factory a/c. Above graphic is accurate. Cap color could change, though? Our '66 Newport 383 2bbl factory a/c had a Group 27 from the factory. Always liked that it was the biggest available for those cars.
Enjoy!
CBODY67
Enjoy!
CBODY67
There seems to be a discrepancy in what was standard for C bodies, 65 and up... and I believe it comes from print material. I believe anything with a 383 or larger got a Group 27, and I've never seen a slant 6 (Canada only) or 318 car without a Group 27, even though some say a Group 24 was what it should have come with...
The battery tray has a large amount of extra room in it when a 24 is installed. Just sayin'...
The battery tray has a large amount of extra room in it when a 24 is installed. Just sayin'...
cbarge
World Famous Barge in a Budget
Group 27.
I went with a 24 just so i could have a battery topper that looked like an original.
Its fake but worth fooling with people, lol.
I went with a 24 just so i could have a battery topper that looked like an original.
Its fake but worth fooling with people, lol.
Just checked the 1966 Chrysler and Imperial FSM. Only ONE battery size for "all models". Battery designation "27-MB-70". Considering that these models of cars had only B/RB engines, it might be determined that B/RB engine cars came with the Group 27 battery as standard equipment.
On the 1968 Plymouth FSM, which covers all Plymouths, Battery designation "24-MB-59" for non-RB (incl 426 HEMI) engines (all Slant 6s , 273, LA318, and 383). Therefore, it appears that engine size triggered the standard equipment battery choice, although I also seem to recall that the 27-MB-70 battery was an option on vehicles which came with the 24-MB-59 battery as standard equipment? But the 1965 sales guide does not mention ANY optional battery size to upgrade from the Group 24 battery. It does mention that "New for 1965" is a battery with a one-piece top (non-tar top).
As for the Plymouths and Dodges, the bodies did not "know" which engine they would receive when they were put together, so easier to just have ONE battery tray sized for the largest available item.
In the 1968 Fury Fleet "Fast Facts" booklet, it mentions the Group 24 battery as standard on 383s, with the Group 27 battery on all engines larger than 383. In the retail pricing section, it lists both the Chrysler 60A and Leece-Neville 65A alternators also needing the Group 27/70AH battery with them. Which THEN might mean that if factory a/c was ordered, that would need the larger alternator, which would automatically mean the Group 27/70AH battery was in that mix, too. I might also note that the retail pricing pages have "Chrysler Canada LTD" at the top of each page.
A FEW interesting tidbits, too! A '68 Fury 440 4-spd with the "HD SureGrip" option might well be a Dana rear axle AND the AutoTemp a/c was an option in regular Fury V-8 models AND also could be had in station wagons, too. Which then raises the question of if the front ATC also had full control over the rear unit too, or if the rear unit was just along for the ride with its normal non-ATC controls? More research needed, it seems!
Enjoy!
CBODY67
On the 1968 Plymouth FSM, which covers all Plymouths, Battery designation "24-MB-59" for non-RB (incl 426 HEMI) engines (all Slant 6s , 273, LA318, and 383). Therefore, it appears that engine size triggered the standard equipment battery choice, although I also seem to recall that the 27-MB-70 battery was an option on vehicles which came with the 24-MB-59 battery as standard equipment? But the 1965 sales guide does not mention ANY optional battery size to upgrade from the Group 24 battery. It does mention that "New for 1965" is a battery with a one-piece top (non-tar top).
As for the Plymouths and Dodges, the bodies did not "know" which engine they would receive when they were put together, so easier to just have ONE battery tray sized for the largest available item.
In the 1968 Fury Fleet "Fast Facts" booklet, it mentions the Group 24 battery as standard on 383s, with the Group 27 battery on all engines larger than 383. In the retail pricing section, it lists both the Chrysler 60A and Leece-Neville 65A alternators also needing the Group 27/70AH battery with them. Which THEN might mean that if factory a/c was ordered, that would need the larger alternator, which would automatically mean the Group 27/70AH battery was in that mix, too. I might also note that the retail pricing pages have "Chrysler Canada LTD" at the top of each page.
A FEW interesting tidbits, too! A '68 Fury 440 4-spd with the "HD SureGrip" option might well be a Dana rear axle AND the AutoTemp a/c was an option in regular Fury V-8 models AND also could be had in station wagons, too. Which then raises the question of if the front ATC also had full control over the rear unit too, or if the rear unit was just along for the ride with its normal non-ATC controls? More research needed, it seems!
Enjoy!
CBODY67
Last edited:
Looks like we have a consensus. Either a group 24 or 27. Non-tar top.
I have a group 24 topper (yellow cap). I also have extra red caps for those that don't know the difference.
I do know that my '64 Dart (/6) had a green cap tar top. Apparently '64 was the last year for the tar top.
Another side-bar - Superbee's (before the A12 package) came with group 24 if the group 27 wasn't special ordered.
Thanks to all for the knowledge.
Omni
I have a group 24 topper (yellow cap). I also have extra red caps for those that don't know the difference.
I do know that my '64 Dart (/6) had a green cap tar top. Apparently '64 was the last year for the tar top.
Another side-bar - Superbee's (before the A12 package) came with group 24 if the group 27 wasn't special ordered.
Thanks to all for the knowledge.
Omni
Similar threads
