Chrysler's CEO Explains Why their Bailout Worked

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Sergio Marchionne addressed the graduates of Michigan State University on Saturday and gave them sage advice about their future and how to succeed. His philosophy is why Chrysler has succeeded since being given another chance. It is worth listening to the whole speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z50EWkj1L6Y
 
The US taxpayer (NOT the government!) lost $7B with the Chrysler deal, and $61B with the GM deal. Yup. A winner.

This is the main reason I'll never own a 2009-newer Chrysler or GM product. If I ever buy a new vehicle, it'll be a Ford.
 
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The US taxpayer (NOT the government!) lost $7B with the Chrysler deal, and $61B with the GM deal. Yup. A winner.

This is the main reason I'll never own a 2009-newer Chrysler or GM product. If I ever buy a new vehicle, it'll be a Ford.


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Oh lordee....
Conspicuous consu................

Ross: say that is badass and I swear to gawd I will shoot you.
 
The US taxpayer (NOT the government!) lost $7B with the Chrysler deal, and $61B with the GM deal. Yup. A winner.

This is the main reason I'll never own a 2009-newer Chrysler or GM product. If I ever buy a new vehicle, it'll be a Ford.

I said the same thing, but the new Vette could be tempting. I don't have to count that since it's made about 100 miles away from me do I?
 
I am not sure, so I should not even post, but I thought Ford took out a loan from a bailout bank, so in someway they took it. I am not positive and have not looked into it.
 
Ford in all its wisdom ran into a wall just before GM and Chrysler did, and so Chrysler and GM got snagged in the Wall Street Collapse in 2008 when no banks had any money to loan them like they did with Ford. So, in other words, Ford ran out of cash actually before GM & Chrysler, so they hocked everything they had left to get bank loans to keep them going. The timing for Chrysler & GM was not so fortunate, so when they needed the cash, the only place to get it was the government. But since Ford did not technically go bankrupt, although they would have if their timing was a couple months later, they were able to get their loans and are still paying them off. All three companies were run badly which led them to their respective situations, and part of their struggle was UAW healthcare costs and other negotiated agreements that were no longer sustainable. The bankruptcies cleared all that out (bad management and the UAW had to get sensible). Alan Mulally of Ford has stated that if Chrysler and GM had gone down, they too would have failed because their suppliers were much the same and could not have survived on Ford business alone. And the UAW would not have made reasonable agreements with Ford unless they were forced to do so because of what happened to Chrysler and GM.

Yeah, you can go buy a Ford today but the most recent ratings show them near the bottom of frequency of repair statistics list, although much of that is the "My Ford Touch" electronics in their cars that don't work well. And they have had something like 7 recalls on one of their 2013 Hybrid models and multiple recalls on the new Focus. GM on the other hand is near the top of the ratings with some of their cars now and Chrysler continues to make steady gains.


I am not sure, so I should not even post, but I thought Ford took out a loan from a bailout bank, so in someway they took it. I am not positive and have not looked into it.
 
Ford in all its wisdom ran into a wall just before GM and Chrysler did, and so Chrysler and GM got snagged in the Wall Street Collapse in 2008 when no banks had any money to loan them like they did with Ford. So, in other words, Ford ran out of cash actually before GM & Chrysler, so they hocked everything they had left to get bank loans to keep them going. The timing for Chrysler & GM was not so fortunate, so when they needed the cash, the only place to get it was the government. But since Ford did not technically go bankrupt, although they would have if their timing was a couple months later, they were able to get their loans and are still paying them off. All three companies were run badly which led them to their respective situations, and part of their struggle was UAW healthcare costs and other negotiated agreements that were no longer sustainable. The bankruptcies cleared all that out (bad management and the UAW had to get sensible). Alan Mulally of Ford has stated that if Chrysler and GM had gone down, they too would have failed because their suppliers were much the same and could not have survived on Ford business alone. And the UAW would not have made reasonable agreements with Ford unless they were forced to do so because of what happened to Chrysler and GM.

Yeah, you can go buy a Ford today but the most recent ratings show them near the bottom of frequency of repair statistics list, although much of that is the "My Ford Touch" electronics in their cars that don't work well. And they have had something like 7 recalls on one of their 2013 Hybrid models and multiple recalls on the new Focus. GM on the other hand is near the top of the ratings with some of their cars now and Chrysler continues to make steady gains.

That is how I understood it as well. The no bail out money that the public thinks is really not true.
FWIW, the driveshaft was defective in my 08 F150. A recall. The 5.3 is a gutless engine with a bad spark plug design. I thought about getting a Ecoboost, until I found out all of the problems that they are having. Kinda reminds me of that great GM feeling I had with a 89 Vette (the flywheel came apart !!!) and a 86 Fiero GT (the repair orders stacked up like a phone book).
 
I, personally would rather sink the money into my '98 ram1500 360. I can make a lot of updates, and customization, and still have a fraction of the cost in it as opposed to something new, with enough electronic crap in it to fill a library with android idiots from the local campus. If you haven't guessed yet, I hate electronics, to a point anyway. I can't help but wonder what would be possible performancewise, if you took everything the "chevyheads" are doing to their "LS" stuff, and apply it to an all aluminum indy maxx wedge. Ok, sorry. Got off topic there for a moment, when I saw the F450 pic. How about a RAM 4500, anybody?
 
Our last GM was a 2010 Tahoe LTZ I bought for my wife brand new. Had it for only a few months. Most worthless piece of **** I ever paid 56,000 bucks for. We damn near lemon lawed that thing. Nothing but Mopars and Fords in our garages now, and zero issues.
 
Ford took PRIVATE money in loans, while GM and Chrysler took TAXPAYER money. Ford and their lenders lost nothing. The US TAXPAYER lost with GM and Chrysler, all while the government (and their appointed CEO of GM) tell us all is well. They are so full of crap.

The government actually tried to FORCE FoMoCo to take taxpayer money; and to Ford's credit, they told the government to essentially "piss off". That is something I admire greatly. And that is why I'll buy a new Ford over a GM or Chrysler car or truck, as I stated earlier.
 
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Ford took PRIVATE money in loans, while GM and Chrysler took TAXPAYER money. Ford and their lenders lost nothing. The US TAXPAYER lost with GM and Chrysler, all while the government (and their appointed CEO of GM) tell us all is well. They are so full of crap.

The government actually tried to FORCE FoMoCo to take taxpayer money; and to Ford's credit, they told the government to essentially "piss off". That is something I admire greatly. And that is why I'll buy a new Ford over a GM or Chrysler car or truck, as I stated earlier.

Yep, noble Ford was even more badly managed at that time than Chrysler and GM such that it had to seek loans from private banks earlier than the other two - they even used the Ford trademark as collateral they were so desperate. But when the banks sent us all into the trash bin with their stated income loans and insurance policies on those risky loans, a little while later, they too collapsed such that there was no money available at any private bank to provide Chrysler and GM with private loans. And noble Ford sent their principled CEO Alan Mulally, to the congressional hearings where he recommended that both Chrysler and GM be given government bailout money for the simple reason that Ford relied on many of the same suppliers as the other two, and if the other two collapsed, Ford would go with them because they would no longer have suppliers to supply parts to build their cars. So while the world is just black and white to you and principles are principles, with no bending ever, the reality is that Ford would have been right there with the other two if they had waited just a little longer. And while Ford got loans with numerous other big banks, trust me, those other banks all went under too and were eventually bailed out with taxpayer money to keep them afloat because "they were too big to fail". So taxpayers paid one way or the other. The fact is that all three domestic automakers had insurmountable structural problems where their retirement plans were unsustainable and the union contracts were no longer sustainable either in the face of increased competition from overseas and a changing U.S. economy. Without bankruptcy, these structural problems would have taken all three down. But with the bankruptcy came a new opportunity grounded in reality that allowed each of them to become competitive again. Ford would not have been able to deal with the union contracts eventually on their own unless GM & Chrysler forced the unions to accept a new reality through bankruptcy.
Also, please provide a link where the U.S. government tried to FORCE Ford to go bankrupt. At that time Ford had the loans they needed and chose not to apply for bankruptcy to have a competitive edge with consumers, which obviously worked with you.
 
Chrysler made relatively short work of paying the loans back.
 
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