Fender tag Q

[patrick66]

Someone on the forum has the Special Order prefixes listed; example 900908, where that first digit/letter has a meaning..another would be DT3511. Anyone know what I'm asking about? I've seen it here on the site, but can't remember what it's called or where it's at.

 

[detmatt]

@69CoronetRT

 

[patrick66]

Thanks.

 

[69CoronetRT]

SO/VON assignments is a whole 'nother can 'o worms.

There are the often posted and wholly incomplete and out of context lists.

These are useful as a general guideline but far, far from definitive. What is listed may or may not be correct.

Context and applications matter!!!!! (A lot of exclamation points used on purpose for emphasis. You must know what year and make of car being discussed)
VON numbers CAN BE REUSED across makes indicating two different things.

 

[patrick66]

Thanks! One specific car I was thinking about was that infamous '78 New Yorker on BaT. It has the "DT" as the first characters of the VON.

DT1760, is what it reads.

I see the code for my '66 Coronet 500 hardtop - 351---, which is "Airports and Terminals". It is the only one I've ever seen. In fact, it's the only one that Govier has ever seen, and this was back when we associated. My build sheet says "Airports and Terminals" at the bottom. My car was a display car for the new model year at Denver Stapleton Int'l Airport. It, along with a Dart, Polara, Monaco, and D100 were all on separate turntables to show off the new '66 lineup (Charger was unavailable until January '66). After Christmas 1965, the cars went back to the dealer, Skyline Dodge in Denver, to be sold.

 

[69CoronetRT]

Thanks! One specific car I was thinking about was that infamous '78 New Yorker on BaT. It has the "DT" as the first characters of the VON.

DT1760, is what it reads.

I know VONs, generally, start with two letters in 1978 but that's not a year or era I've spent much time on so I can't help with that one.

 

[patrick66]

OK, cool. Anyone out there with familiarity with 1978-up fender tags??? What do you believe the DT to mean? I've seen that on a couple of other New Yorker Broughams of that time frame in the past.

 

[LocuMob]

@PeugFra

 

[PeugFra]

From 1978 on, normal US VONs started with two letters. Canadian and special VONs started with a single letter, eg. E "Export", J "Special Order/Paint", Q "Chrysler Lease/Executive" and B, C or D "Canada". On B-bodies K "Special Order/Police" was still in use. Note that a sunroof car in the list below did not get a special VON.

Two-letter combinations found on C-bodies:
AJ 208
AQ B16
AV 119 Bales Motor Co., Inc.,, Jeffersonville, IN
BC 411
CN 619
CR 626/w M51 "Sunroof - Power"
DJ 327
DR 307
DT 626 (fender tag published some posts earlier)
DU 619
DW 503
EN 517
EP 503
EV 606
EZ 606
ZA 320, 421
ZE 501, 619

As you can see, their occurrence in relation to the Scheduled Production Date is roughly in alphabetical order, but exceptions are no exception, so to speak. A 1978 Cordoba VON starts with FE, which makes me think that combinations AA through EZ were for C-body orders.

The ZA and ZE combinations seem to follow a different logic.

I think the VONs starting with the two-letter combination originate from the dealer's order sheet block. It would be nice to be able to back this up with an order sheet, but I can't.

 

[69CoronetRT]

From 1978 on, normal US VONs started with two letters. Canadian and special VONs started with a single letter, eg. E "Export", J "Special Order/Paint", Q "Chrysler Lease/Executive" and B, C or D "Canada". On B-bodies K "Special Order/Police" was still in use. Note that a sunroof car in the list below did not get a special VON.

Two-letter combinations found on C-bodies:
AJ 208
AQ B16
AV 119 Bales Motor Co., Inc.,, Jeffersonville, IN
BC 411
CN 619
CR 626/w M51 "Sunroof - Power"
DJ 327
DR 307
DT 626 (fender tag published some posts earlier)
DU 619
DW 503
EN 517
EP 503
EV 606
EZ 606
ZA 320, 421
ZE 501, 619

As you can see, their occurrence in relation to the Scheduled Production Date is roughly in alphabetical order, but exceptions are no exception, so to speak. A 1978 Cordoba VON starts with FE, which makes me think that combinations AA through EZ were for C-body orders.

The ZA and ZE combinations seem to follow a different logic.

I think the VONs starting with the two-letter combination originate from the dealer's order sheet block. It would be nice to be able to back this up with an order sheet, but I can't.

C2 VON.
Sold in US
Y22

 

[patrick66]

Looked at my '66 Coronet 500 SO number, it is indeed 35157, with the 351-- indicating Airports and Terminals; which matches the bottom of the build sheet. What's cool for me is that I did not know the 351-- meant what the build sheet said, in that regard, until yesterday!

And my '66 Imperial does indeed start with 15---.

 

[69CoronetRT]

And my '66 Imperial does indeed start with 15---.

That would be expected

66 SO numbers seem to increase as you go up the make/price point food chain.

For example, typical first numbers for 66' SO's are:

00- Valiant/Barracuda
02- Belvederes
02-04 C body Plymouths
06- Darts
08-09 Coronets
09- Charger
10-11 C body Dodges
13-Chryslers
15-Imperials

 

[PeugFra]

C2 VON.
Sold in US
Y22

View attachment 486944

I read that one as a "Q". Makes sense together with the info for earlier years.
I'll have to check for other VONs starting with "C". I mostly got "B" and "D" with Canadian cars.

 

[PeugFra]

Someone transcribed his fender tag and published it as a PDF (see attachment).

That's the only "C" in the VON that I can show for a Canadian car. Others have "B" or "D". Canadian cars are recognizable by

N92 ESA w/o Catalyst

Sad footnote: about a month ago Windows choked on my main file with C-body related info and returned an empty file. So much of what I have found trailing the web during the last three years is gone and my answers are somewhat vague.

 

[PeugFra]

A 1978 Cordoba VON starts with FE, which makes me think that combinations AA through EZ were for C-body orders.

Wrong! Here's a 1978 Cordoba with a VON starting with CQ: