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http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/5330657987.html

Dave if you get the desire/chance to check this one out... let me know. If you don't want it I might. Not a St. Regis roof... looks way better on a side profile.

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I sure hope you put eyeballs on this one before buying it. There is a lot of rust on this one. It also has ATC II and the wipers probably don't work. Interior looks OK from what the limited view that I can see.
 
I would get a no rust Formal from out west if you are serious about a Formal.
 
I sure hope you put eyeballs on this one before buying it. There is a lot of rust on this one. It also has ATC II and the wipers probably don't work. Interior looks OK from what the limited view that I can see.

I would get a no rust Formal from out west if you are serious about a Formal.

Noted, and thanks. I can pretty easily fly to PA to do a look/purchase if I have a few to look at it may be worth while. Over due to see mom anyhow and if she comes to me she never leaves. Probably why I'm the bad son, but the other moved away too. I have people in AZ as well... but I'm not too sure about that drive and I'm not sure about shipping either. Not ruled out, just looking where I find em at a price and model that interests me. I wish I had the ability to own a sampling of all the cars I love, but unless the lottery comes through...
 
Both of those white coupes are $1000 max with the rust, ATC II, and other problems. You can probably use them for daily drivers...I wouldn't have any thoughts in restoring those 2 cars. Drive the wheels off of them and part it out at the end. You can get $600 for the bumpers alone and $500 for the drivetrain if it's a 440. Remember, about half of the 1978 New Yorker's had 400's (E64) in them. A bunch more had 360's (California and high altitude cars). So the bottom line is that people automatically assume New Yorker's all came with 440's (E85).
 
Both of those white coupes are $1000 max with the rust, ATC II, and other problems. You can probably use them for daily drivers...I wouldn't have any thoughts in restoring those 2 cars. Drive the wheels off of them and part it out at the end. You can get $600 for the bumpers alone and $500 for the drivetrain if it's a 440. Remember, about half of the 1978 New Yorker's had 400's (E64) in them. A bunch more had 360's (California and high altitude cars). So the bottom line is that people automatically assume New Yorker's all came with 440's (E85).

Thanks, I don't recall seeing any 360 cars... but I would prefer that to a 400 actually. Nothing wrong with a 400, but my criteria is good leather interior, reasonably rust free (nothing structural or under top), prefer 440 (price would have to reflect anything else), want black (will tolerate any color, price reflects based on my love/disgust), I doubt I would be willing to get involved with anything that actually needs paint... but I am realistic as to what condition I'm willing to pay for (nicks, scratches and touchups)... I may travel to inspect/buy, but I wont call unless I'm serious and I seriously don't want to waste my time on misleading sellers. I don't expect to find what I want overnight... and if MR C would just part with ONE of his Imperials... I would be a happy boy.
 
Both of my 78's.... NYB and Newport have 400's.

No offense meant...440 and 400 parts are the same cost, similar economy...I would prefer the 440, but if the price was right...
The 360 would possibly give better economy and slightly cheaper parts supply.... it would lack all sex appeal, but I'm just planning to cruise anyhow.
 
No offense meant...440 and 400 parts are the same cost, similar economy...I would prefer the 440, but if the price was right...
The 360 would possibly give better economy and slightly cheaper parts supply.... it would lack all sex appeal, but I'm just planning to cruise anyhow.

No offense taken...

The difference in horsepower in 1978 is 5 hp.
 
No offense taken...

The difference in horsepower in 1978 is 5 hp.

I wouldn't expect to remain 100% stock unless it was just that nice. I would be looking for a little more power and better reliability/economy, but I don't really like to document anything that violates federal laws... I'm probably just paranoid, but EPA fines are steep and the laws are there... the enforcement has only ever gone to a few commercial businesses. They could kill a large part of the hobby if they ever changed enforcement... no ignition, fuel or emission mods without approval and testing similar to CARB # in CA or SEMA street legal rating.
 
There is zero probability that anyone, anywhere, anytime, is going to even bother checking an old car for emissions equptment in FL.
Less than than zero, in fact.
Probably more like -0 x 1,00,000 to the hundredth power.
 
Currently I agree.... it took a decade for stupid Cash for Clunker thing to happen... it was originally an emission proposal that was knocked out of legislation every year or two. Florida is already California emissions without any testing provisions or enforcement YET. The testing is too much money, it will never happen IMO, but visual enforcement would only require them to train cops. Florida cops usually know very little about a car, but they do like to check winged Hondas for catalytic converters and issue "fix it" tickets. For a shop caught removing cats that can be a $25k fine.

Don't believe here is a link, this stuff isn't well advertised but if you pay attention the little blurbs in the press often have some of it buried in there. Our hobby is in jeopardy, but probably won't start to have big problems until years down the road when there is a reason to slip in new laws or change enforcement of existing ones.

http://www.motorvehicleregs.com/the_vehicle_reg_blog/state_adoption_of_california_emissions/
 
Sorry Stan. I baited you on that one, I knew it would piss you off. :poke:

It pisses me off too, but if we still have an old car hobby in 20 years... it will look way different than it does today. If along the way, the government powers at that time decide old cars are a problem they can get away with killing... Florida has a lot of cars that are modified or have deleted equipment... they would just have to change enforcement policies to kill a big chunk of the car hobby... go after the ricers and they will make the potential to screw with your car. As I said before testing would be unlikely but harassment from law enforcement would by itself make it less desirable to drive an old car.

here is a couple cat links
http://www3.epa.gov/otaq/cert/factshts/catcvrts.pdf
http://www.walkerexhaust.com/support/understanding-catalytic-converter/epa-converter-basics

and a FL DEP link
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHWOTmbkqY9h77Ed30Tr6gadSdfGw
 
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