New Carburetor Technology

Initial opinion is that Thompson needs a website overhaul..

There are a few rules regarding web design... fellers broke about all of em.

As for the product itself, I get its potential benefits toward the end of better fuel emulsion but remain skeptical as to its claimed effectiveness.... then I haven't played with one yet.
 
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I watched their video and I'm calling BS. I think this product is on the same playing field as the auto zone "cold air intakes" and "performance mufflers", or those hilarious "electric superchargers". The promotional video shows a patent date of 92' just to kind of date this product. Watch the promotional video around the 4:30 mark where they are revving an engine while looking into the carb. The without shot gives a slow, short throttle roll, while the "after" comparison gives a brisk, more open throttle producing a totally different sound. Without experiencing the product first hand, but with the supplied evidence, I call BS and thinks it's snake oil at best.

My favorite testimonial of "mad shiftin' n' driftin' skillz bro'"> “This mornin’ is the first time I really drove my car hard after installing the POWERBLAST PLATES. I've never got sideways in fourth gear b4. Very happy!”
Victor – ’67 Mustang with Holley 750 DP

So who here is going to buy one to play with and send to other members for demo?
 
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ABSOLUTE **** RIPOFF WIDGETRY!!!

Americans are in the Top 5 Something for Nothing Seekers. "Y'all want 'Low Bark Hi' or 'High Bark Lo' foah yo ailments?..."

The ONE inexpensive carburetor hack I might recommend and try out here is a small mist head for very hot dry days to give a little more working mass for compression and cooler air on intake. This has been known of for at least 80 yrs I'm aware of......
 
What ever happened to good ole adhiesive backed performance enhancements? This **** seems like too much work.
Yeah, where are them cool STP stickers I covered my bedroom door with as a wee lad?
 
BS. Having a warm crossover below the carburetor does all the atomizing you could ever benefit from.
 
BS 12.7 : 1 best power gasoline to air
14.7 : 1 best economy
Pounds of air to pound of gasoline only way to improve on that is to burn it more efficiently (no dead air pockets in combustion chamber) or a very quick and responsive adaptable fuel delivery system (modern efi )
No free lunch.
 
To all you young'ns out there under 50, Smokey Yunich was experimenting with atomization of air and fuel using super heated carburation in the 70's in search of the mythical 100 mpg carburetor that the big oil companies was trying to squash.
What old is new again.
Popular Science was writing about this stuff when Carter was President.
 
To all you young'ns out there under 50, Smokey Yunich was experimenting with atomization of air and fuel using super heated carburation in the 70's in search of the mythical 100 mpg carburetor that the big oil companies was trying to squash.
What old is new again.
Popular Science was writing about this stuff when Carter was President.
You are right on the money. I'm 50 and was fascinated by this article. The 100 mpg on the cover was clearly a news stand grabber. Done to a Fiero if I remember stands to reason if tou gut it it was a plastic body on a go cart chassis. Does point to what Steve mentioned about high temp and atomization.
 
To all you young'ns out there under 50, Smokey Yunich was experimenting with atomization of air and fuel using super heated carburation in the 70's in search of the mythical 100 mpg carburetor that the big oil companies was trying to squash.
What old is new again.
Popular Science was writing about this stuff when Carter was President.

Bravo Stan! GOOD of you to recall the man. Yes, I recall some hoopla about this, which was when I stumbled onto the stuff about a mist sprayer for the intake too. If I can just get Tilly up to 15 mpg, I'll call it a Good Day. 2.91:1 rear end makes her roll nice on highways but in town, I do well above 10 mpg. I may try my swamp cooler intake this June, take a few data points....
 
I don't remember the order but the fuel came out of the carb to heat exchanger then to a Turbo that was too small but just to mix or help completely atomize the fuel so it could be run very lean. Great stuff.
What if your crossover is blocked?
Means you will have more ponds of air (denser/colder) so in theory you would not have to open carburetor as much to maintain constant road speed ie. Still getting your 14.7 : 1, but like Steve said heat makes it atomize better will make it burn more completely, more bang for your pound of fuel instead of being run out the exhaust as unburned fuel. Your carburetor being a rather crude instrument has rich and lean spots probably due to how the air flows through it at different openings, "my car cruises nice at 70 mph or my car seems sluggish at 50 mph" . Your new Charger fixes all that by changing and monitoring this all the time along with more and better transmission ratios leads to better mpg. Hope that helps.
 
What if your crossover is blocked?

I would unblock it. Otherwise, expect driveability problems especially during warm up but even when warm. Tip ins will not be instant or smooth and overall responsiveness will suffer otherwise. Even if this device improved atomization at the accelerator pump discharge nozzle, there would still be fuel puddling as it impinges on cold surfaces of the intake manifold passages as it weaves its way to the cylinders.

Some block the crossover to minimize fuel boil off when the engine is off after operating in hot weather and to prevent hard hot starting due to fuel vapors boiling into the engine and flooding it. But for me, it isn't worth it to block the crossover for these reasons.

Today's cars pretty much make all these issues go away with precise, well atomized fuel injection (both port type and direct fuel injection) and vapor storage and purge systems. And the cleanest cars have port fuel injection where fuel is injected onto the hot intake valve before combustion during cold starts and then switches over to direct fuel injection into the combustion chamber once the engine is suitably warm whereby the less effective atomization of direct fuel injection would be acceptable because the combustion chamber is hot enough to ensure virtually complete atomization.
 
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I would unblock it. Otherwise, expect driveability problems especially during warm up but even when warm. Tip ins will not be instant or smooth and overall responsiveness will suffer otherwise. Even if this device improved atomization at the accelerator pump discharge nozzle, there would still be fuel puddling as it impinges on cold surfaces of the intake manifold passages as it weaves its way to the cylinders.

Some block the crossover to minimize fuel boil off when the engine is off after operating in hot weather and to prevent hard hot starting due to fuel vapors boiling into the engine and flooding it. But for me, it isn't worth it to block the crossover for these reasons.

Today's cars pretty much make all these issues go away with precise, well atomized fuel injection (both port type and direct fuel injection) and vapor storage and purge systems. And the cleanest cars have port fuel injection where fuel is injected onto the hot intake valve before combustion during cold starts and then switches over to direct fuel injection into the combustion chamber once the engine is suitably warm whereby the less effective atomization of direct fuel injection would be acceptable because the combustion chamber is hot enough to ensure virtually complete atomization.

Well put Steve, but we've had this conversation in the past and you know I'm not going to unblock the crossovers. I need to keep the paint on my intake!
 
I studied that article by Smokey a great deal as a youngster... don't recall all the details of the setup, but thanks for the memories.:thumbsup:

BTW, 14.7:1 is actually the cleanest burn ratio. It was long held that your car would be into misfire by 16:1, but with wide band O2 sensors and precombustion chambers, to allow the fuel to ignite, the manufacturers have gotten way leaner than that. Those engines run high compression ratios too... a few years ago it was all hybrid engine technology. I am sure it is going/has gone more mainstream since.

Come to think of it, did Smokey talk about direct injection in that article?
 
. Tip ins will not be instant or smooth and overall responsiveness will suffer otherwise. Even if this device improved atomization at the accelerator pump discharge nozzle, there would still be fuel puddling as it impinges on cold surfaces of the intake manifold passages as it weaves its way to the cylinders
To some extent but not like it was in days gone by. The gasoline now does not have anything added to increase the surface tension of the liquid, it is not needed because the only opening in the closed fuel system is the cap. The fuel vaporizes much easier than it used to which is why the float bowls are going dry in our old cars after a week or so. I believe that you can get excellent drivability with a more modern carburetor and the tuning pieces that are available today but I doubt Scott is going to change to a new quick fuel carb being the purest that he is.
 
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