300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
A pair of 13 year olds. A father and son set. Damn, those blocks are big.
Not Mopar, but it's calling Stan
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I just said the other day that I'd like to have a Marauder.
Not blinged up... Just a nice stock one... Black with a black interior.
Not blinged up... Just a nice stock one... Black with a black interior.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
I just bought it!!! 
No, not really.
A Crown Vic (or Marauder) has always been one of my fantasy projects in my head. Right down to the Mustang 6 spd.
You know me well, Peter,
No, not really.
A Crown Vic (or Marauder) has always been one of my fantasy projects in my head. Right down to the Mustang 6 spd.
You know me well, Peter,
MarPar
Meat Man with a Hat
What the hell is that? A Boss 429??
Whatever it is, it's pretty bad-***
Whatever it is, it's pretty bad-***
twostick
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DOHC 4.6.
Kevin
Kevin
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
I believe people have tried to fit the Lincoln SUV 6.2(?) into the Panther bodies but it's a difficult squeeze.
I've actually thought about a P71 (police package) Crown Vic. There's decent priced examples that were detective/official cars without a jillion miles on them. Parts are cheap and they share that modular motor with Mustangs. V8 and rear wheel drive... Can't beat it.I just bought it!!!
No, not really.
A Crown Vic (or Marauder) has always been one of my fantasy projects in my head. Right down to the Mustang 6 spd.
You know me well, Peter,
I really like my Grand Marquis.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
We need to black out the grill and tail light panel, John...
Hood scoop, anyone?
Hood scoop, anyone?
Carmine
Old Man with a Hat
By the end of it's run, that platform was very good. The styling didn't age well. The trans was outdated and that held back the power and mileage.
However, that's the beauty of a BOF car. Ford should have continued an inoffensive sedan, (with modern powertrains) and continued to own that market for very little investment. Lincoln should have built a very dramatically styled sedan with a huge margin and been the only car in that space.
Dumb. I believe those cars were axed on the alter of "political correctness".
However, that's the beauty of a BOF car. Ford should have continued an inoffensive sedan, (with modern powertrains) and continued to own that market for very little investment. Lincoln should have built a very dramatically styled sedan with a huge margin and been the only car in that space.
Dumb. I believe those cars were axed on the alter of "political correctness".
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
One article quoted someone from Ford saying the Panther platform could not be redesigned to meet future safety requirements. Couldnt economically design collapsible crush zones on the existing BOF design. So it said, anyway...
Bottom line, it was a bean counter decision regardless of what they said was the reason.
They were... To my understanding FOP was working on a boycott over rear end collisions ability to shorten the frame and rupture the fuel tank, they wanted the fuel tank moved in front of the axle.
Stan, I had started this prior to your post... 100% agreed... bean counter/lawyer decision. New engine platforms were coming too, these cars didn't justify the time and tooling to try to work out... but I miss them already. They are the last of the simple rwd cars.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Same with GM when they ended the B/C platform in '96 to change the plant over to more profitable truck production instead of buikding an additional plant. I haven't forgiven GM since.
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
That one is Sr's car. Here's the info sheet he has on the windshield
And this is Jr's car spec
I don't think either one was a cheap build.
tbm3fan
Old Man with a Hat
Probably take a tell all book to be released 10 years from now. However, I do believe it was mostly a senior management decision rather than government standards. In 2007 Ford restricted the cars to fleet sales. Who became Ford CEO in 2006? Alan Mulally and I will take a guess he was the one who wanted to concentrate on smaller platforms ( Fusion) and engine technology.
In 2002 a Ford engineer had redesigned the Panther platform getting it ready for new designs. I remember one of the designs was a Country Squire wagon which may have been a fantasy design wish. Would have been super cool through. Anyway Ford was hurting, William Clay didn't know how to deal with the issues, and he hired Mulally. Platform and designs consigned to history. As far as mpg all the car needed was the 6 speed auto already behind the 4.6 modular in the Mustang. Tweak. Add stability control. Tweak and voila. Yet doesn't fit the image of a forward looking company. Not the first time a Big Three CEO makes a stupid decision.
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65sporty
Old Man with a Hat
I thought they all were black.
Most of the ones I've seen are black, but I've also seen them in Maroon and Silver. I'm not sure if they had limited colors or if they could be had in any of the available Mercury colors.
2003 had Silver Birch, Black and Dark Blue Pearl
2004 had those and Dark Toreador Red.
2004 had those and Dark Toreador Red.
ESC became a mandatory safety item in 2012 for all passenger cars... but had versions available back to the late 80s/early 90s. Regardless of brand very few engines from 2006 made it to 2016 due to the various emissions and fuel economy standards. Nothing against cops in general, but their organizations are not in the habit of being easy customers. GMs BOF platform stuck around for them and the few new car customers who wanted them. Ford had the only BOF sedan since 96 on the market, but risk/reward math was the legitimate reason to pull the plug.
Nobody will ever build cars like that here again... the technology and federal regulations have moved too far beyond what they can deliver. We Mopar fans already know what a great law enforcement package unit body has delivered in the past... no good reason not have it in the future. Later Panthers with a lightened suspension improved unsprung weight, which was needed to continue to pretend the platform was viable... but the basic design of these cars looking up at the floor pans from below goes back to the 70s.
Even the best in the automotive industry can't see more than 5 to 10 years into the future, and that's just regulations...
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
2004 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/662142778/overview/?aff=criteo&BAC=criteolf9181
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/662142778/overview/?aff=criteo&BAC=criteolf9181
$4499... 74k miles... best part of these cars is the Formal prices... and junkyards full of parts...2004 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/662142778/overview/?aff=criteo&BAC=criteolf9181
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