For Sale Reproduction '68 Sport Fury Red/White/Blue Fender Emblem Plastic Inserts on eBay $149.95/Pair

[FURYGT]

Not Mine.

NEW 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury Plastic Fender Medallion Red White Blue | eBay

These are darn close to the factory emblems. IMHO the colors are a bit off. However, these are impossible to find and Emblematic wanted $400/pair and a minimum order of 10 pairs to make these. This is an incredible part to be reproduced for '68 Sport Furys. Hopefully some trim parts will be made one of these days.

 

[CBODY67]

Unless it's licensed by Chrysler, the colors will have to be "off a little". Otherwise, copyright infringement can be operative. If licensed, the items would be produced per Chrysler blueprints and specs, which they'd have to sign-off on before the licensing agreement could happen. Plus a 5% royalty fee. Be that as it may.

Still, a nice looking product.

 

[shooter65]

Unless it's licensed by Chrysler, the colors will have to be "off a little". Otherwise, copyright infringement can be operative. If licensed, the items would be produced per Chrysler blueprints and specs, which they'd have to sign-off on before the licensing agreement could happen. Plus a 5% royalty fee. Be that as it may.

Still, a nice looking product.

IMO, No one will get licensed by FCA for any trim items like this. I tried last year and was flatly rejected. It seems Classic Industries and a few other big players have locked up all licensing rights regardless if they make the part or not. Dumb *** marketing company in NYC that you have to go through for licensing takes a VERY broad view of existing licensing agreements.

 

[CBODY67]

My intent was to explain the difference in colors, compared to the originals, lest somebody take aim at them as being "incorrect" in that respect. I remember when Chrysler's attorneys got very protective of the "names and marks" in the later 1980s. At the time, there was a pretty decent Mopar-oriented magazing, "MoPerformance". which the lawyers deemed too close to "Mopar Performance and was copyright infringement, according to them. There were no actions by the publisher to infringe upon the Chrysler name, but they raided his home and removed all of the magazine stuff from his basement (where his office allegedly was). End of one great magazine and an advocate for the enjoyment of Chrysler-built vehicles. I know it took years for the '66 Charger tail light lenses to get approval, for whatever reason. And, this was also a time when the first "off-shore" crash parts were proliferating in the USA, so "trademark/copyright infringement" was a hot topic for the OEMs. And with an economic downturn/corporate finances just past, "profits" were being protected, fwiw.

When many vendor were doing some very good repro items, they had to alter them to not be exactly correct so they didn't have to pay licensing royalties or mess with that stuff. Everygody knew that and noted it when showing their cars to others. Pete Ciadella was the premier Tri-Five Chevy interior vendor, but the headliners had stars in the place of the Chevy BowTie imprint in the vinyl headliner material. Everybody was fine with that as the quality was so high and otherwise exactly correct.

One year at Mopar Nats, in the Mopar Perf seminar, Chrysler's Larry Sheppard announced the then-upcoming repro voltage regulator. He also explained that if you had a '70 car, it would not match, as their last part number change went to the 1972 item. It would not match the OEM producti0on 1970 item, but it would match what went on the '72 models and if you ordered a new one from Chrysler, the 1970 part number would have superceded to the 1972 item, which had some differences. They used the original Chrysler blueprints and tried to go back to the original vendors, when possible. I might have missed the model years in this explanation, but the explanation is still valid.

The whole licensing issue is tricky and troublesome, obviously, as anything that's licensed has to be subject to Chrysler's Quality Control procedures and activities, just like any other vendor-supplied part they sell in a Chrysler Corp (which ever variation thereof) container. And then the licensing fee used to be 5%. In some cases of small volume niche items, "Road Runner" feed for the efforts it might take to make it happen.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

CBODY67

 

[commando1]

Can SOMEONE explain to me the connection betweem fmmopar and AMS Obsolete.

 

[FURYGT]

Can SOMEONE explain to me the connection betweem fmmopar and AMS Obsolete.

FMMPAR was Mitchell's as in Frank Mitchell's. AMS Obsolete bought out Frank's business several years ago. Frank had been trying to sell it for several years and probably had the largest inventory of NOS parts anywhere and was probably the most knowledgeable person on MOPAR parts in the country. Frank actually stayed on and worked for AMS for a few years after he sold the business to AMS Obsolete. Frank started the FMMPAR eBay store a long time ago and it made sense for AMS to keep it. Frank passed suddenly at the MOPAR Nat's in 2014.

I have bought parts on eBay from AMS and recommend them as an eBay seller based on my experience. Over the past several years AMS has branched out to selling several reproduction parts.

Some folks had differing opinions on Frank but he always treated me fairly and when I was a vendor at Carlisle he bought stuff from me every year (for re-sale). Also, during the 2014 Carlisle show I became very ill Thursday night after setting up on Thursday and I was too ill to return to Carlisle and ended up spending 2 days in the hospital. On Sunday, Frank came over to my swap meet spaces and after hearing what happened to me he helped my friends pack up everything and put it in my enclosed trailer and he bought some parts, which helped me not loose money on the swap meet spaces that weekend. I regret that I never got a chance to thank him for his generous help. Sorry for the unrelated details.

Bill

 

[FURYGT]

Murray Park tells me he also has these. Will post details as soon as I get them.

 

[FURYGT]

Murray has these for the same price, $149.95. Email him at; mbpark@cbodies.com

 

[marty mopar]

Frank Mitchell had lots of problems with customers including me. One time someone told me " I can't understand why someone hasn't put a bullet in his head".

Others said that the ONLY you couldn't get screwed by him was to go there in person and buy parts.

This went on and on for years....Hemmings pulled his ads and Parts Voice yanked him off their site.

Pathetic way to run a business.

 

[CBODY67]

What I recall was a skepticism that you'd get what you ordered, if it was indeed NOS for your car, or something NOS modified to fit your car, as on friend's friend ended up with. That particular headlight switch had been gone for years, so finding one at Mitchell's was "a find", until it arrived, didn't look like the orig, and turned out to be a modified Charger headlight switch, but still worked. So, key thing was to buy it in person at Mopar Nats or similar. That was back in the '80s.

For sure, Mitchell Motor Parts did serve a very good service to the hobby by distributing the accumulation of parts they had to those who needed them. But there were some issues every now and then, it appears. Not terribly different with some vendors in other niches of the car hobby, by observation. We can only hope the ++ outweighed the --.

Problem with any NOS inventory which is purchased from car dealers' obsolete stock, something might have happened at the dealership prior to the vendor purchasing those parts in bulk. Lots of scenarious. The NOS vendor, unless they actually know what the part is or looks like, takes it all at "face value" and what the number on the box is defines what is sold, even if what's in the box might be incorrect for the part number.