United Airlines Stock Dropped !!! Ya Think !!!

[amazinblue82]

I will never debate that feeling .. articulated by commando1 and shared by many like our friend the Doctor -- along with a resolute intention to tell them to "No, I am not getting off this plane" if they randomly picked you.

BUT IF they insist that you gotta go, i would also advise anyone, with respect, its their plane and they get to decide who flies.

No law I have run across says they gotta sell you a seat, OR after they did sell you a seat, let you ride their plane. You aint dressed right, you're obviously intoxicated, you are smoking, you got sprayed by a skunk in the parking lot -- whatever -- lots of ways they can keep you off/throw you off their plane.

the systems/rules are biased, and I agree why, to favor the AIRLINES' decisions on load management virtually 100% for safety, security, weight, and host of OTHER good reasons.

getting "bumped" is a consequence of flying. like getting cut off on the freeway by an idiot driver is a consequence of driving.

i hope "flyer rights" are strengthened and airlines do better to "walk the customer service walk" rather than "talk the talk.

 

[Ironwolf]

 

[commando1]

 

[twostick]

Now airlines can prohibit you from boarding if over booked but once on the plane they can't ask you to just get up and leave. So whoever asks me to get up and leave. I ask the question am I being asked to leave my seat and get off the plane? If told no then I sit back down. If told yes then I immediately ask for the written Federal rules that are legally required to be given to the passenger before they leave. The rules state that I must be delivered to my destination within one hour of my original time. If over 2 hours late then I am entitled to a double refund of my original ticket up to something like $635. If fours hours or more late then I am entitled to 400% of my original one way fare up to $1300.

Are they required by law to inform you of this regardless or only if you ask?

If they were obliged to disclose that to this passenger and they didn't, their *** is grass and his lawyer is the lawn mower.

He apparently has retained or is in the process of retaining a big name attorney who's specialty is this type of case.

Between that and the half a billion dollar stock dive, it would have been cheaper for them to charter a private plane to shuttle their lackeys to Louisville.

It's not good to piss off the peasants. They outnumber the Royals by a substantial amount.

Kevin.

 

[tbm3fan]

Are they required by law to inform you of this regardless or only if you ask?


Kevin.

It is required by law if you are involuntarily denied/removed from a plane due to overbooking. Doesn't apply if the flight is canceled, they switch to a smaller plane, or they need to adjust weight distribution. It is also suggested that all this take place at the gate before boarding which didn't happen here. If you volunteer at the gate then no federal rules other than your ability to negotiate what you get. If you are told you are off then Federal rules apply but most gate personnel are untrained as to these rules by the airline.

Code of Federal Regs says:
If an insufficient number of volunteers come forward, the carrier may deny boarding to other passengers in accordance with its boarding priority rules.

If already on board regs say:
The priority of all other confirmed passengers may be determined based on a passenger’s fare class, itinerary, status of frequent flyer program membership, and the time in which the passenger presents him/herself for check-in without advanced seat assignment.

United screwed all that up and it lead to what happened. The officer who removed the passenger is in the clear as the Federal Regs, regarding airline safety, give the police and the airline crew broad discretion when it comes to removing someone from a plane. The good doctor should have gotten up, once he was asked to leave, and dealt with the gate personnel regarding his compensation. Theoretically he can be charged with putting the safety of the plane at risk. He obviously didn't know about:

"You've got to know when to hold 'em / Know when to fold 'em / Know when to walk away / And know when to run"

 

[70bigblockdodge]

The doctor better hire another lawyer because the suit is getting stronger

Now united is in a slander suit with the daily mail

 

[polara71]

 

[Dobalovr]

Managed to fly from Calgary AB to FLA without losing any teeth or my seat today....thanks Air Canada!!

 

[300rag]

Managed to fly from Calgary AB to FLA without losing any teeth or my seat today....thanks Air Canada!!

You flew AC Rogue, I mean Rouge instead of Westjet? I am appalled.

 

[Dobalovr]

You flew AC Rogue, I mean Rouge instead of Westjet? I am appalled.

Have to fly first class with the wife's bad leg need the extra room and communist air doesn't distinguish between class...everybody is the same...squished but they smile a lot, must be whatever Turdo lets them smoke

 

[commando1]

Turdo lets them smoke

WHAT?

 

[300rag]

Have to fly first class with the wife's bad leg need the extra room and communist air doesn't distinguish between class...everybody is the same...squished but they smile a lot, must be whatever Turdo lets them smoke

The sad part is, United has the best flights YYC to FLL or MIA. One short layover in Houston and first/business class available.

 

[Carmine]

I heard someone defending United say "its like a bakery... they bake fewer doughnuts than they need so the don't have to throw away stale doughnuts."

To which I would have said, "No, it's like I purchased a doughnut and the baker came around the counter and snatched it from my hand, then gave it to their kid because he didn't want to bake another that day."

Legally, I don't doubt the airline had the right to screw this person over... that's what I expect of the current state of corporate regulation. But I'm glad the problem is being exposed and could care less that United is in a world of hurt for its failure to use free market principles (more $$ in compensation) to solve the problem. The CEO would be the first to claim the "free market" justifies his multi-million dollar salary.

 

[Fratzog]

WHAT?

 

[65sporty]

I saw a ad on some show that Southwest has a new slogan "We beat our competitors prices NOT our customers"