WPC 2017 NATIONAL MEET IN SEATTLE

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WPC and Chrysler 300 Club Meets are probably where we will see a good showing of these old beauties anymore, at least here on the West Coast. Time is marching forward very fast in this connected global world these days.

Thanks for sharing. Wished I could have attended this one.
 
The guy that owns that '61 Brown 'n White Newport used to be the President of the Puget Sound Chapter of WPC. MIGHT STILL BE? We talked a few yearz back 'bout '61 Long Roofz. Wonder if the guy that Ownz the '56 LaFemme with the matching Pink 'n White Chrysler Outboard waz at that meet too? That'z hiz back yard too az I recall, Jer
 
WPC and Chrysler 300 Club Meets are probably where we will see a good showing of these old beauties anymore, at least here on the West Coast. Time is marching forward very fast in this connected global world these days.

Thanks for sharing. Wished I could have attended this one.

yes, you need to attend car shows Steve.
With an old Mopar of course.
Which one will you drive to the Fall Fling?

Carsten
 
yes, you need to attend car shows Steve.
With an old Mopar of course.
Which one will you drive to the Fall Fling?

Carsten

No point in driving one to a show - no one here in California cares about older C bodies - just the muscle car stuff and half of that is the new muscle car stuff!
 
No point in driving one to a show - no one here in California cares about older C bodies - just the muscle car stuff and half of that is the new muscle car stuff!

how can people fall in love with C-bodys in LA if you don't show them how they look alike?

Then there are european Mopar enthusiasts as well who are happy to see a big Mopar inbetween all the compacts

Carsten
 
how can people fall in love with C-bodys in LA if you don't show them how they look alike?

Then there are european Mopar enthusiasts as well who are happy to see a big Mopar inbetween all the compacts

Carsten

Lets face it Carsten, folks out here at least see our old boats as anachronisms, just as we generally do the cars of the 40s and early 50s. Given the traffic out here, few are willing to drive extended distances in our 50 - 60 year old cars where a simple breakdown will jam up a freeway for hours. And then when you get to a car show, C bodies are just not all that popular. Maybe other parts of the country see things differently and have less traffic congestion issues (ours are 7 days/week). And drivers are increasingly more distracted and inconsiderate, making it little fun.
 
Lets face it Carsten, folks out here at least see our old boats as anachronisms, just as we generally do the cars of the 40s and early 50s. Given the traffic out here, few are willing to drive extended distances in our 50 - 60 year old cars where a simple breakdown will jam up a freeway for hours. And then when you get to a car show, C bodies are just not all that popular. Maybe other parts of the country see things differently and have less traffic congestion issues (ours are 7 days/week). And drivers are increasingly more distracted and inconsiderate, making it little fun.

I agree with all of that.
But those who don't try can succeed.
Just consider you might get 5 guys interested in C-bodies instead of A-bodies in Van Nuys.

BTW: Do you want to sell a blue Fury?
I will drive it. Promised.

Carsten
 
I agree with all of that.
But those who don't try can succeed.
Just consider you might get 5 guys interested in C-bodies instead of A-bodies in Van Nuys.

BTW: Do you want to sell a blue Fury?
I will drive it. Promised.

Carsten

Drive it out here?

And to get 5 guys interested in a C body, that blue Fury would need to be nice! And if 5 more guys were interested in a C body, how would that change the world? I don't even see A bodies on the road almost ever.

But most large Mopar meets in Southern California are in the Los Angeles/Hollywood area, and for me that is a long, grueling trip through L.A.'s worst traffic, especially coming home. But I would have no qualms driving to more local meets through less congested areas, but those are no longer taking place due to lack of interest.

I am getting my cars ready for museums when I am gone, so they will be seen by generations long after this one, like they appeared in the showrooms when new. I just enjoy restoring them mostly, and driving them locally when the traffic is down sometimes.

Otherwise, my 1997 Concorde is a joy to drive by comparison, no worries with great a/c, no overheating in traffic in 110F temperatures and higher and handling that is extraordinary, with comfort and quiet to match and a good stereo. :poke:
 
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Drive it out here?

And to get 5 guys interested in a C body, that blue Fury would need to be nice! And if 5 more guys were interested in a C body, how would that change the world? I don't even see A bodies on the road almost ever.

I would drive it everywhere.

If I would have gotten a temporary liscense plate last year I would have driven my 69 Charger 500 to the Spring Fling, too.

No matter if you take your FY1 Yellow New Yorker or the blue SFGT: The car would get attention at the show don't worry about the condition.
They will be more interesting for many people at the Mopar show than a 57 300 C because people do see those more regulary.

When was the last time you saw a SFGT or a FY1 coloured C-body at a Mopar show in person, Steve?

Wouldn't it be good if more people in the US like them, too?
So less get robbed of their engines or derbied?

A Mopar show lives from the "car" participants. No cars, no show.

Finally: Mopars were built to be driven. Not sitting in the dark 365/24. Don't you hear your cars scratching at the door willing to come out and feel again pavement under their tires?

Carsten
 
I would drive it everywhere.

If I would have gotten a temporary liscense plate last year I would have driven my 69 Charger 500 to the Spring Fling, too.

No matter if you take your FY1 Yellow New Yorker or the blue SFGT: The car would get attention at the show don't worry about the condition.
They will be more interesting for many people at the Mopar show than a 57 300 C because people do see those more regulary.

When was the last time you saw a SFGT or a FY1 coloured C-body at a Mopar show in person, Steve?

Wouldn't it be good if more people in the US like them, too?
So less get robbed of their engines or derbied?

A Mopar show lives from the "car" participants. No cars, no show.

Finally: Mopars were built to be driven. Not sitting in the dark 365/24. Don't you hear your cars scratching at the door willing to come out and feel again pavement under their tires?

Carsten

You are young and German - there is no way I can prevail in this discussion! :p
 
Driving my Imp is one of my favorite things to do and I do it completely for myself because it makes me happy. The only time my '95 LHS makes me happy is when the weather isn't good enough to be driving my Imp..
Steve, how many different pictures of your cars have you posted on this site since 2011? How about some new ones?
 
But most large Mopar meets in Southern California are in the Los Angeles/Hollywood area, and for me that is a long, grueling trip through L.A.'s worst traffic, especially coming home. But I would have no qualms driving to more local meets through less congested areas, but those are no longer taking place due to lack of interest.

I am getting my cars ready for museums when I am gone, so they will be seen by generations long after this one, like they appeared in the showrooms when new. I just enjoy restoring them mostly, and driving them locally when the traffic is down sometimes.

come on Steve, I can't give up that easily.
First of all your place is local to Van Nuys (Spring&Fall Fling). It is only 55 miles distance. We are not talking about you driving to Carlisle, Columbus or Moparfest in Canada.

Yes traffic isn't nice. But I have been to NYC this summer so I can tell you about worse traffic and bad drivers who have no clue what a turn signal indicator is but they know their horn well.

But there are solutions if you don't want to come into traffic much.
You travel to the show already late on friday evening. Stay at the airtel hotel with the other Mopar drivers just a mile away from the showground. So arriving there is no hassle. When the offcial show is over you do not drive home immidiatly but join the Mopar cruise in Northridge at the Big Boy Diner which starts at 5pm. Just a few miles away from the showground. You can have a nice diner there at the shopping center at the local Buenos Aires grill (ask me how I know). So when the cruise and diner is finished you can drive home safely at 9pm to Rancho Cucamonga without major traffic

Carsten
 
I love this conversation. I took drivers training in SoCal in '53 when there were only 5 freewayz in the entire Valley and US 99 waz ah 3 LANE DEATH TRAP from San Clemente where it split off Pacific Coast Hiway up to Santa Ana, lol. Timez change, and If we don't adapted and change with them we shirley will parish before our time. I'm seriously thinking of fabricating a 4" well casing with heavy supporting around all 4 sidez of my Maxi Van( and disconnecting the air bag in my steering wheel. Then painting a sign on the back doorz something to the efFect of "THEIRZ A NEW INVENTION OUR THERE. IF YOU DRIVE ANYTHING NEWER THEN A 1947 BUICK YOU HAVE THEM. THEY'RE CALLED TURN SIGNALS STUPID, YOU SELFISH LAZY SOB.
 
I agree with Carsten on this, they are to be driven. If I lived where there is no road salt I would only have a modern car for my wife (I'm not that stupid).
I got my Charger moving this year after 14 years in the shop, it is ugly, but it is rejuvenated and I can pick a project each winter and complete the job and back on the road next spring. The mechanicals are all gone through. It is now a 440 4 speed not original but fun as hell. My wife's Jeep is nice to drive, my Charger is fun to drive, big difference.

Nice pictures thanks.
 
I definitely hear you guys, and can't disagree. But I am just not like you guys - I have different priorities. For me, driving a less than close to perfect car is just a nuisance and every little gremlin annoys me - I am too much of a perfectionist. I admit it and can accept it. I like to restore cars to showroom, and then do my utmost to keep them that way. If I drive them, which is not often, I don't take them in heavy freeway traffic, as it is just a chore and no fun. If I am going to drive them, I will do it more locally where I can get on them a little and actually enjoy them. And I usually spend several days making sure all is still OK after sitting a long time usually. I have a lot of cars, a lot more than most, but what I really like the most is restoring them back to their original state. Of course they are to drive too, but for me I would rather do that sparingly and enjoy the drive. I am not motivated by people seeing my cars at a car show and giving me accolades - that is fine, but I usually end up going to shows to chat with people I haven't seen lately, and rarely spend much time looking at the cars. I have seen the B and E bodies that are nice so many times at Spring Fling in Van Nuys and they just don't excite me all that much since there are so many of them and many well done. I have 5 B/E bodies, and I do like them, but only the E body is fully restored. I actually had it out a few months ago, but didn't take photos, so maybe next time I will take some.

Looking at worn and cludged cars, which most C bodies are at shows out here, while interesting, just doesn't do much for me. I see all the things that are wrong and well worn and just don't see much to enjoy about them, except that they are still on the road and being enjoyed by someone. Which is great!

I like walking into my garage each day and just seeing some pristine cars that I remember from the past, and want them to look like new, so that I can recall those days. I see many of our C bodies as a form of art that needs to be captured in its orginal state. Carsten and maybe some others have a priority of driving perhaps less than near perfect, but fairly original cars, and having those out on the road still after some 50 years is enjoyable to them and having a few niggling issues doesn't matter.

In my second and last job, which was a 31 year stint, I was so pressured with responsibilities and had so little time, that I didn't restore a single one of my intended cars in all those years. Now that I am retired, I want to make up for lost time - big time. So my priority isn't driving, it is restoring. But I have had to clear up a lot of things to be able to do all that, I also moved to two bigger pieces of property and have house restoration needs and having had to build a new garage have taken a lot of time.

I don't think I have ever posted a photo of myself on this site, but I have seen many of you guys in the group photos and others from time to time. So I decided that since you know so much about me now, I would post one from my retirement party 5 years ago in this thread. The quality isn't all that good, but since I don't have many photos of myself, I wanted to edit it and copy it, so it is what it is. I am in the middle below, and my boss is on the right in the photo. He was the best boss I could have ever imagined. On the left is an employee that I hired and later found out had a 1970 Challenger RT/SE 6 pack car that needed restoration, so we restored his Challenger and my Cuda 6 pack at the same time in the garage at my previous house, and the Cuda was the last car I have done nearly 31 years ago. He got married shortly thereafter, and his wife limited him to one car. She had other priorities and they both wanted to raise a family, so it sure made sense.

Most of you guys have seen my 1960 300F, and I feel a resonsibility to keep it looking like new after 57 years since it only has 29K miles on it and has all original paint and chrome - it is perhaps the best one still in existence. So I would like to keep it that way so people who visit me can view it pretty much just as it would have looked in 1960. That matters to me more than driving it significantly. But I do want to keep it in good driving order too. I actually don't enjoy driving it as much as one of my 1962 Chrysler 300s, which have both been restored, because these latter cars are actually more nimble and not that much slower than my 300F, largely because they are on a smaller wheel base chassis, and they are just more fun. So I do drive those much more.

So I enjoy the most to restore my cars rather than drive them and I truly enjoy hosting folks to view my collection anytime - you won't see a lot of places like mine anywhere else because these are my priorities. Every time Carsten visits, it is a real treat, and same when Chris and his wife from Arizona come over, or Bob Baker or many others from Europe visit as well, it is fun for me.

For dematt, I actually have been driving my 1962 Black 300 for the last several weeks from time to time just to spend some time enjoying it, but I still want to keep it looking fresh. Below are some photos of the car taken just 2 weeks ago. But it will go back into storage for awhile until its turn comes up again. That is just how I am, and I hope you can understand and accept that I have some different priorities and circumstances.

Best!
Steve


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Wow... mirrors don't get any better than this... It's still not too late to adopt me.:)
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