70 Fury Leaf Spring Rear Mounts

[1970FuryConv]

I was removing the leaf springs and 8 3/4 rear axle from my 70 Fury parts car today. On the right side, I made the mistake of trying to remove the strap bolts from the straps with the spring still mounted. As you can see, this, bent the inner strap all to hell. Also, on both lower strap bolts, the nut and end of the bolt broke off when I tried to remove the nut. I realized that I should have removed the 3 mounting bolts for the rear strap assembly and left the straps alone. Thus the left side spring mount looks straight. Given that I am willing to pay for quality American or Canadian made parts, some questions:

1) Where can I buy a new strap assembly for both sides?

2) Any tricks for removing broken bolts frozen in a spring eye?

3) If the spring eye bushing has to be destroyed, where can I buy a new bushing?

 

[68plymouth383]

Moog makes the rear bushings. I have some good used rear straps.

 

[1970FuryConv]

70 Fury Leaf Spring Front Mounts

While we're at it, the left side front spring mount rusted out around the bolt head and then the whole assembly shifted inward. Hopefully, I could buy a front spring mount from same vendor. I had to use an exhaust cut off wheel to remove enough of the mount that I could get my 15/16 socket on the bolt head.

 

[68plymouth383]

I have some clean rust free front mounts also.

 

[1970FuryConv]

70 Fury Leaf Springs

These are the leaf springs themselves. Spring arch seems exactly the same. They weigh 47 pounds each. It was hard to tell about the ride height with the parts car because of severe rust around the rear spring mounts. Leaf Springs look worth keeping.

 

[polara71]

No, they're out, put new ones in along with new bushings and hardware


http://www.springsnthings.com/

 

[1970FuryConv]

How would I know they're junk?

Also, online catalog at springs and things won't be working until later this year. Did you get something different when you went on their website?

 

[polara71]

No... I didn't open the link, just posted it because of their reputation. Information is a phone call away

 

[kmccabe56]

No, they're out, put new ones in along with new bushings and hardware


http://www.springsnthings.com/

Why would you replace the OE springs if there are no broken leaves?

 

[1970FuryConv]

good question

 

[68plymouth383]

Do you want the leaf spring mounts I have?

 

[thrashingcows]

Why would you replace the OE springs if there are no broken leaves?

Because springs weaken over time...and the car may sag in that back end. Nothing I hate more then seeing a nice clean, or restored car that the you know someone spent some good money on...and the tail end is dragging due to them cheeping out and re-using weak rear springs.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Do you want the leaf spring mounts I have?

Thanks for the offer. These are a spare set of springs from a parts car. I took a look at my convertible's springs and mounts. They look OK, so I am going to pass on the extra set of mounts. Thanks again, Ben

 

[1970FuryConv]

Because springs weaken over time...and the car may sag in that back end. Nothing I hate more then seeing a nice clean, or restored car that the you know someone spent some good money on...and the tail end is dragging due to them cheeping out and re-using weak rear springs.

I checked my records. I bought a set of leaf springs for a 1973 Dodge Monaco from Springs and Things. The rear of the car was way too high. I thought it would settle down, but it never did. I like cars that ride level. I hate jacked up rear ends, and I'm afraid of the same thing happening again with another set of aftermarket springs. That was the reason for pulling the springs before getting rid of the parts car. For me, aftermarket leaf springs are a last resort. I'll try to be flexible: if someone has a picture of their car riding level, and a specific part number, I might change my mind.

 

[kmccabe56]

Because springs weaken over time...and the car may sag in that back end. Nothing I hate more then seeing a nice clean, or restored car that the you know someone spent some good money on...and the tail end is dragging due to them cheeping out and re-using weak rear springs.

That was truer with cars from the 50s and early 60s, but regardless, wouldn't it just be easier to get the springs re-arched? Any spring shop worth their salt can do it in an hour or so and charge a whole lot less than a new set. Just don't let the spring shop add a leaf. That's a guarantee to get the "cat in heat" look.

 

[68plymouth383]

You order what you want. You can ask for de-arched 1"-2" to sit level. Or just run a pair of orig sagging springs.

I checked my records. I bought a set of leaf springs for a 1973 Dodge Monaco from Springs and Things. The rear of the car was way too high. I thought it would settle down, but it never did. I like cars that ride level. I hate jacked up rear ends, and I'm afraid of the same thing happening again with another set of aftermarket springs. That was the reason for pulling the springs before getting rid of the parts car. For me, aftermarket leaf springs are a last resort. I'll try to be flexible: if someone has a picture of their car riding level, and a specific part number, I might change my mind.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Thanks for the info. I didn't know custom springs could be ordered. I also had never heard jacked up called "cat in heat". That's hilarious! I guess the female cat wants the male cat to sniff her exhaust and plug her pipe for while.

Overall, the back of the 1970 convertible is only slightly low. It's hardly noticeable. It has the standard light duty axle, which I believe is an 8 1/4. I'm going to install an 8 3/4 that I already have. Then I'm going to take another look and decide if it makes sense to change the springs. My guess is that I'm going to end up leaving them the way they are. Thanks for helping me with options.

 

[PM27G0D]

I know this is an old thread, but I'm a new member and this is relevant. I have a '70 Fury convertible as well...it's a 318. The rear springs are only 5 leaves and I've been trying to research springs that might have been available as as option on this car. I'd like to tighten up the handling just a little bit, as it's kind of scary at speed being so soft. My broadcast sheet says my springs are "234".
The springs from your parts car appear to be six leaf ones. What sort of Fury and with what engine was the parts car that those came out of? I'd really love to know the part # of those six leaf springs....should be stamped on the lower leaf.

Wow...I just realized we're in the same area! Two '70 convertibles....who'd have thought?

 

[Aidan1976]

Hey mate,

Yes, get in touch with Ben (1970FuryConv), he's great guy. His white 1970 Fury III convertible is a really nice car.

I know this is an old thread, but I'm a new member and this is relevant. I have a '70 Fury convertible as well...it's a 318. The rear springs are only 5 leaves and I've been trying to research springs that might have been available as as option on this car. I'd like to tighten up the handling just a little bit, as it's kind of scary at speed being so soft. My broadcast sheet says my springs are "234".
The springs from your parts car appear to be six leaf ones. What sort of Fury and with what engine was the parts car that those came out of? I'd really love to know the part # of those six leaf springs....should be stamped on the lower leaf.

Wow...I just realized we're in the same area! Two '70 convertibles....who'd have thought?

 

[72Fury]

I bought new 7 leaf springs from Stengel Bros. The car sits fine, however I would replace the shocks first if the car is not sagging. Get a nice gas shock. Maybe add a rear sway bar. 70 series tires. If your not happy, then replace the springs.