1962 Body plate decode
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weim55
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I can’t answer your question personally, but : if you go to the 1961/1962 Chrysler Facebook page post a picture of your data plate and there’s a guy on there that is requesting as many of these as possible to put together consistent decoding. He will know which engine code yours is.
Steve weim55 Colorado
Steve weim55 Colorado
weim55
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“Torky” here at Cbodies might be the same guy(?) try to PM him.
Steve weim55 Colorado
Steve weim55 Colorado
Torky
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Body Data Plates on pre-1965 Chrysler do not show much chassis information such as engine, AutoPilot, tires, SureGrip as the tags were designed and filled with info for the body line. I have developed and am testing a decoder and I would appreciate the opportunity to decode the Body Data Plate on your '62 Sport. Please post pictures of the Body Data Plate and VIN tag of your car and I'll prepare a report for you, similar to the attachment. N/C. I may have some questions. If you have not looked for a Track Sheet for your car, you ought to do so. They are often found tucked in behind the springs of the rear seat upright cushion. Worth the effort as it will tell almost everything about the car including the engine..
69CoronetRT
Senior Member
Your work on this decoder has been nothing but exceptional and is desperately needed in the hobby. Thank you.
I do wish you would change the one mischaracterization we've discussed. Repetition of erroneous information only ads to the confusion that already exists in the hobby. It is a minor text change that means a lot.
I do wish you would change the one mischaracterization we've discussed. Repetition of erroneous information only ads to the confusion that already exists in the hobby. It is a minor text change that means a lot.
Torky
Member
Not recalling the issue. Wording? Copy of a most recent report attached.
Torky
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Photo did not go first time.
69CoronetRT
Senior Member
Association of the term Produced with the VIN.
The VIN is administrative. It is not related to the number of cars produced nor the order of production. A VIN is simply a number assigned to a specific car. (We can count the number of apples in a basket but that does not tell us in what order they were picked.)
1) Research leads to the possibility that blocks of numbers were not simply not even assigned meaning if we don't use a block of, say, 500 VINs that alters the associated VIN assignment compared to production. A car is likely not the XXXth produced at the plant. It may not even be the XXXth VIN assigned.
2) There are instances where US sold and Canada sold cars use a different VIN range. There are instances where car lines start in the 500xxx VIN range. There are instances where out of sequence VINS are assigned (a block of 400xxx VINS for '69 Lynch Road). Associating production with a VIN would drastically overinflate the number of cars made for a certain plant for certain years.
A VIN does not matter to production. As we do more research (see the documentation being accumulated in the "The Last C body Produced" thread) we find more and more supporting evidence this is true.
What you are doing is important. Please keep at it. This is an opportunity to be accurate where others have not.
The VIN is administrative. It is not related to the number of cars produced nor the order of production. A VIN is simply a number assigned to a specific car. (We can count the number of apples in a basket but that does not tell us in what order they were picked.)
1) Research leads to the possibility that blocks of numbers were not simply not even assigned meaning if we don't use a block of, say, 500 VINs that alters the associated VIN assignment compared to production. A car is likely not the XXXth produced at the plant. It may not even be the XXXth VIN assigned.
2) There are instances where US sold and Canada sold cars use a different VIN range. There are instances where car lines start in the 500xxx VIN range. There are instances where out of sequence VINS are assigned (a block of 400xxx VINS for '69 Lynch Road). Associating production with a VIN would drastically overinflate the number of cars made for a certain plant for certain years.
A VIN does not matter to production. As we do more research (see the documentation being accumulated in the "The Last C body Produced" thread) we find more and more supporting evidence this is true.
What you are doing is important. Please keep at it. This is an opportunity to be accurate where others have not.
Torky
Member
Totally agree, but there is not room on the single-sheet report for this detail. I'll try to find some hedging words. Latest version of my 300K rag report. Do you have access to a car within the range of my report???
69CoronetRT
Senior Member
Sorry. The closest I can get is an Imperial. Body 922 with 0924 0017 SO.
Torky
Member
That looks like a Crown Imp 2DHT. If a 1960-1965 car, I need those pix of Body Data Plate & VIN tag as I am slowly expanding to 1960-1961 cars. VIN tag not critical but enables completion of the report. If not submitted, please advise year of the car. SO & BDY do not tell year of the car.
Torky
Member
Engine codes did not show up on Chrysler fender tags until 1965. The fender tags, 1964 and previous, only contained body data--and some years, not all of that. Production Broadcast sheets are often found tucked in between the springs and jute backing of rear seat upright cushions. These tell nearly everything about the car. Example attached. I'd be glad to decode your fender tag-no charge ever. Example attached. VIN would help, but not critical.
Richy Rich
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Richy Rich
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Hello Torky. I too have a 62 300 sport with the S2 41 413 motor. Do you think you could decode my tag? (Attached) It has alot of options and seems to be original. Thanks
Torky
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Torky
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Thanks for the post from one who remembers Richie Rich from the '50's. VERY nicely loaded H? Report is attached. I can redo it with complete VIN if you wish. I was surprised to see windshield only tinted glass. Please confirm or correct whether this is the case. Typically, all A/C cars received all windows tinted, especially, that big rear light.
Richy Rich
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Thanks for the quick response. Wow, it is exactly what you said. Power steering, brakes, bench seat with folding arm rest, windows, antenna and has clear glass except for the windshield. Sill moldings. It also has padded dash and horn ring and golden tone radio. I attached the vin plate. Thanks again,
Torky
Member
Thanx for more pix. Love that red interior in a black car. Update attached. Padded dash probably standard equipment--not always included on fender tag. See Z4 for radio with rear speaker. I never know how good and complete these .jpg's go through. Please advise as to quality and completeness of the image. I try to size and copy the image to allow a small white edge around the body of the report.
69CoronetRT
Senior Member
Rich, what you are doing is important and necessary. I highly encourage you to keep up your work but please correct or eliminate the errors on your decode sheets.
There is plenty of misinformation out there already. There is no need to add to it.
As explained numerous times in private and in public, the S.O. number has nothing to do with production. There is no assembly line area or production sequence number indicated by the S.O. number. The S.O. is administrative in function. It is used for scheduling, tracking cars, shipping identification and invoicing dealers.
As documented in numerous and various ways, (the best being the comparison of SPDs to door stickers for 1978's) cars are not built in VIN order. There is no sequence to production order. VINs are cardinal (Counting one, two, three) in nature, not ordinal (Order - first, second, third) administrative numbers also unrelated to production.
Please, please, please continue. Research on the pre '65 cars is very weak within the hobby. But, please, use information already researched, documented and published on your sheets.
The S.O. Number is referenced on the Advance Dealer Shipping Notice (ADSN) as the S.O. NO. but is called the iNVOICE NO on the Invoice. The S.O. number is generated at corporate and goes from Corporate Scheduling to the Factory. Not from the Factory back to Corporate for invoicing.
(Please notice that the complete VIN number is not included on either ADSN. It's possible the last six digits of the VIN had not been assigned when the ADSN was generated.)
There is plenty of misinformation out there already. There is no need to add to it.
As explained numerous times in private and in public, the S.O. number has nothing to do with production. There is no assembly line area or production sequence number indicated by the S.O. number. The S.O. is administrative in function. It is used for scheduling, tracking cars, shipping identification and invoicing dealers.
As documented in numerous and various ways, (the best being the comparison of SPDs to door stickers for 1978's) cars are not built in VIN order. There is no sequence to production order. VINs are cardinal (Counting one, two, three) in nature, not ordinal (Order - first, second, third) administrative numbers also unrelated to production.
Please, please, please continue. Research on the pre '65 cars is very weak within the hobby. But, please, use information already researched, documented and published on your sheets.
The S.O. Number is referenced on the Advance Dealer Shipping Notice (ADSN) as the S.O. NO. but is called the iNVOICE NO on the Invoice. The S.O. number is generated at corporate and goes from Corporate Scheduling to the Factory. Not from the Factory back to Corporate for invoicing.
(Please notice that the complete VIN number is not included on either ADSN. It's possible the last six digits of the VIN had not been assigned when the ADSN was generated.)
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