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NOT MINE 1965 Chrysler 300L convertible 4 Speed $70,000 Listed a year ago in Phoenix, AZ
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Nice car, but looks to be missing some chrome trim and the door cards.
I'm not up on the selling prices on 300L 4-speeds, but is $70K a realistic price for this car?
IMO the seller should've posted more pics.
I'm not up on the selling prices on 300L 4-speeds, but is $70K a realistic price for this car?
IMO the seller should've posted more pics.
Here's another black 4 speed 300L convertible. 1965 Chrysler 300 L Convertible - Rare 4-Speed 413cu / 360hp - Frank's Classic Cars $79k.
crv
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That one is nicer, red interior and black paint, but at $79K they'll be sitting on it for a while. These cars should probably be worth that much, but the market for letter 300s is going the other way. Good luck to them both.
I actually went and looked at this car, and took a bunch of pictures for a member here. Had some small cosmetic issues, but nothing too serious.
The seller is a small classic car collector/dealer with some nice cars.
The 67 Belvedere 2 Dr post Hemi 4-speed was my favorite in his collection.
The seller is a small classic car collector/dealer with some nice cars.
The 67 Belvedere 2 Dr post Hemi 4-speed was my favorite in his collection.
this one has come up a lot in a year.
NOT MINE - 1965 CHRYSLER 300L CONVERTIBLE , 4 SPEED
I am not a player here, today or a year ago. It's a cherry sled though. However, at the lettuce I would expect it to sell for, it may take a bit more time.
But that ask does NOT seem outta line.
But does anyone know/keeping track of ACTUAL price range (as best we know if we were NOT on either side of the deal) that results in a dea for these cars?
The one was said to do $82K a year ago. Nice looking, externsive documentation, etc.
Mecum KISSIMMEE 2024 1965 Chrysler 300L 413/360 HP V-8, Factory 4-Speed, Window Sticker and Build Sheet
sale source: 1965 Chrysler 300L for Sale at Auction - Mecum Auctions
NOT MINE - 1965 CHRYSLER 300L CONVERTIBLE , 4 SPEED
I am not a player here, today or a year ago. It's a cherry sled though. However, at the lettuce I would expect it to sell for, it may take a bit more time.
But that ask does NOT seem outta line.
But does anyone know/keeping track of ACTUAL price range (as best we know if we were NOT on either side of the deal) that results in a dea for these cars?
The one was said to do $82K a year ago. Nice looking, externsive documentation, etc.
Mecum KISSIMMEE 2024 1965 Chrysler 300L 413/360 HP V-8, Factory 4-Speed, Window Sticker and Build Sheet
sale source: 1965 Chrysler 300L for Sale at Auction - Mecum Auctions
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Does that mean we disregard/discount transaction result from these joints? or, stated another way, those cars would sell for less on BAT? seems the well-heeled would just migrate to other places until that black '65 went for 80 large.
Not debating (I pay little attention to Mecum, BJ, etc) as my nose bleeds watching them, but OTOH some good stuff goes through there .. they would give me nose bleeds no matter the venue.
All that said, my original question remains: any source of real transaction data we can say is reliable? $70k-$80k still seems "right" ask for these particular cars.
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crv
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The problem with the big auction houses is the hype, which translates to higher selling prices, but it's only a select few who seem to buy and sell among their own crowd of cashed up collectors/investors. Nobody dismisses the results, it's a good thing in a way that these cars will more than likely be looked after, but many then think that their car must also be very valuable because it's the same year of manufacture or they have something in common with the big dollar cars, only to be ridiculed and become disappointed when their car sits on the market for a year or more. The quality of cars that go through these auction places are usually much higher than the average car on Craigslist, but unless you have very deep pockets, window shopping is all we can do.Does that mean we disregard/discount transaction result from these joints? or, stated another way, those cars would sell for less on BAT? seems the well-heeled would just migrate to other places until that black '65 went for 80 large.
Not debating (I pay little attention to Mecum, BJ, etc) as my nose bleeds watching them, but OTOH some good stuff goes through there .. the would give me nosebleeds no matter the venue.
All that said, my original question remains: any source of real transaction data we can say is reliable? $70k-$80k still seems "right" ask for these particular cars.
Not sure about anyone keeping track, perhaps someone connected with the 300 club takes the time to do so?
The auction houses themselves only care about how high they are able to sell the vehicles in their consignment.
They do a good job (for themselves) in raking in some crazy money selling the cars during their auctions. The sellers are probably making more money too by going through a big auction house that selling it on their own.
I don't fault the auctioneer for that. It's a business. The disadvantage for most hobbyists is that it's made too many of the nice cars reach price points that are out of reach for most people.
A lot of the cars that sell, don't sit in museums, or never to get driven again, although some do.
The dealers who make up a lot of underlying buyers at these auctions are buying and selling the same cars from one location, and then sell it at the next one.
Some of these guys sell 1, 2 or 3 cars at every auction, and can make $5K to $10K on each car, and can pull in over $100K or more a year with little effort.
Not bad for a side hustle, working a few weekends a year, if they know what they're doing and pick the right
cars to buy.
The increaing prices aren't what we like to see, but at least these collector cars will live on for another day with their new owners, instead of rusting away under a pine tree.
Back to the original car, the 65 300L 4-speeds can, and will continue to be one of those cars that will always fetch a high selling price. It's one of those special cars like a hemi Cuda or wing car for our C Body world.
This car will sell, as they always do, but likely not at the asking price.
They do a good job (for themselves) in raking in some crazy money selling the cars during their auctions. The sellers are probably making more money too by going through a big auction house that selling it on their own.
I don't fault the auctioneer for that. It's a business. The disadvantage for most hobbyists is that it's made too many of the nice cars reach price points that are out of reach for most people.
A lot of the cars that sell, don't sit in museums, or never to get driven again, although some do.
The dealers who make up a lot of underlying buyers at these auctions are buying and selling the same cars from one location, and then sell it at the next one.
Some of these guys sell 1, 2 or 3 cars at every auction, and can make $5K to $10K on each car, and can pull in over $100K or more a year with little effort.
Not bad for a side hustle, working a few weekends a year, if they know what they're doing and pick the right
cars to buy.
The increaing prices aren't what we like to see, but at least these collector cars will live on for another day with their new owners, instead of rusting away under a pine tree.
Back to the original car, the 65 300L 4-speeds can, and will continue to be one of those cars that will always fetch a high selling price. It's one of those special cars like a hemi Cuda or wing car for our C Body world.
This car will sell, as they always do, but likely not at the asking price.
Way too much what’s my 65 convertible worth??? It has 55000 auto needs some usual quarter work I ordered the seat covers car is my most dependable classic , the only mod I did was the wheels tires and dual master and the cold light still works!!! here are my others
I don’t know about you gentlemen but when I list a car I know what it’s worth and maybe I’m old school i would rather make less if it goes to someone who really appreciates the car .By chatting with the group for all the help I need I think you know what I mean .The flippers have ruined (greed) the hobby and the market is so over heated on prices it’s ridiculous! In getting old I’m trying to instill the importance of these cars or any old car to the younger generation and I let them use my cars not just to get girls, or guys (my daughter loves the convertible and it is her inheritance with only 440 being produced of course unless somebody gives me 70 grand!!!!
Years ago, I had an older car collector tell me that "a car is really only worth what you can sell it for tomorrow". When my oldest son worked selling cars, he told me "There's an *** for every seat".
IMHO, both of the 300L convertibles are a bit overpriced. That said, with everything equal, a 300L is going to be worth more than a 300. A convertible is always going to be worth more than a hardtop. A 4 speed is (usually) going to be worth more than an automatic.
A glance at Hagerty values shows $51k for a 300L vert in #1 condition and $41k for a #2 condition. $37k and $31k for a hardtop. No mention of the adder for 4 speed, but let's say 25% just as an edumacted guess. So.. $64k and $51k for the 4 speed vert. There are very few cars that are actually #1, and if I were optimistic, I'd say these cars are somewhere between 1 and 2. So maybe $55to $60k.
It still comes down to what someone is willing to pay. I've paid more a couple times because it was the right car, right time, right place etc. I also really wanted the car and could afford it at the time. But that's me.
IMHO, both of the 300L convertibles are a bit overpriced. That said, with everything equal, a 300L is going to be worth more than a 300. A convertible is always going to be worth more than a hardtop. A 4 speed is (usually) going to be worth more than an automatic.
A glance at Hagerty values shows $51k for a 300L vert in #1 condition and $41k for a #2 condition. $37k and $31k for a hardtop. No mention of the adder for 4 speed, but let's say 25% just as an edumacted guess. So.. $64k and $51k for the 4 speed vert. There are very few cars that are actually #1, and if I were optimistic, I'd say these cars are somewhere between 1 and 2. So maybe $55to $60k.
It still comes down to what someone is willing to pay. I've paid more a couple times because it was the right car, right time, right place etc. I also really wanted the car and could afford it at the time. But that's me.
Well said I’m in the process of getting the hardtop done I’ll send pics soon
Nick from nicks garage on you tube is going to do the 413 rebuilding
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