For Sale 1967 FURY 4-SPD

[72Fury]

NO....... They are guides. Not meant to be taken literally.
Actual vehicle value is determined by how much the seller wants to sell and how much the buyer wants the car.

The problem is they are not updated with the market, which is more fluid than static, up or down. One sale does not make the market & that one sale might not be repeatable. Sure it's a guideline, but no more accurate than your horoscope.

 

[polara71]

NO....... They are guides. Not meant to be taken literally.
Actual vehicle value is determined by how much the seller wants to sell and how much the buyer wants the car.

Although priced a little on the high side .

All due respect Will I'm puzzled with these two conflicting statements.

 

[polara71]

The problem is they are not updated with the market, which is more fluid than static, up or down. One sale does not make the market & that one sale might not be repeatable. Sure it's a guideline, but no more accurate than your horoscope.

Where do they come up with the prices?

 

[72Fury]

Where do they come up with the prices?

Keith Martin decides what he likes.

 

[polara71]

Pardon my ignorance, who?

 

[bluefury361]

Where do they come up with the prices?

There are folks who spend the day watching the auctions, monitoring dealer and private sales links so that an assessment of fair market value can be determined as accuractly as possible. It's not an exacting science. Hence, "guideline". I'm sure there is a formula they use to average values out on some of the lesser traded vehicles.
They offer a starting point for negotiations.
The human factor is a whole different point of view.

 

[bluefury361]

All due respect Will I'm puzzled with these two conflicting statements.

I don't see a conflict. Obviously this is not a main stream vehicle and should be above value of similar vehicles. Just not that much above value IMO. There again, it's a starting point.

 

[bluefury361]

My second comment was directed to the black Fury posted by Stan. A very worthy offering. Not to be confused with the OP car.

 

[polara71]

Private and dealer sales can't possibly be used as a gauge since the true number is never given, usually to cut down on sales tax. Then add in the human emotional element .... Price guides are completely unreliable

 

[72Fury]

Pardon my ignorance, who?

Keith Martin - Sports Car Market

Many echo his numbers, which can be vastly off from actual sales figures. You might have seen him on What's My Car Worth? Many of his numbers have not been updated for over 5 years. The best guide (imo) used to be eBay, when it let you go back 6 months on sold prices, now it only goes back a fraction of that.

 

[amazinblue82]

Rare 1967 H-Code Sport Fury Fastop 383 4spd!

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Rare 1967 H-Code Sport Fury Fastop 383 4spd! - $13500 (se ma)

This is not your everyday Sport Fury. This was registered and driven by me 2011? maybe? and has been in dry storage since. Could easily be a driver right now, but, deserves to be treated to a full restoration at some point and shown! I can promise you, there won't be another one like this at ANY car show / cruise night you may go to.
I went to the 2017 Chrysler Nationals and not one even close to this one, none had buckets with floor console (and forget about a factory tach like this one has), none were factory black on black, and absolutely NO factory 4-speed's anywhere in the whole show!
After doing some research on production numbers what I have found is that they only produced 799 4 speed Fury's for the whole 1967 model year, and that includes Fury I, II, III, hardtops, fastops, rag tops and includes 4 doors as well in total! After talking to a few top notch Mopar guru's I found out that this is a very special Sport Fury and probably 1 of only 3 or 4 like it ever built! Unfortunately there is no further breakdown of just how many Sport Fury Fastops with the 383 Super Commando and 4 speed were built, but out of the thousands built for the whole model line, this could actually be the only one? Hopefully, more documentation surfaces at some point to finally get a production figure per body style.

Please read the entire write up on it, I know it's a little lengthy, but the car and you deserve the best description up front that I can provide, and if there is anything you would need to know in addition, or other pics, please let me know.

HISTORY / DOCUMENTATION:

I have excellent paperwork on this rare Mopar. Car comes complete with its orig. FENDER TAG, BUILDSHEET, CERTI-CARD, plus some documentation from previous owners from the New Jersey area. It was ordered brand new from New Jersey with a Certi-Card date of May 19, 1967 Lyndhurst, New Jersey and was always in the same area until the late 80's until it traveled to Rhode Island /Massachusetts where it currently resides. One of the last owners before it came to MA was in late 87 early 88 timeframe. I also have some detailed service records from the New Jersey owners as well. This car was ordered as all business! No power steering or brakes or any other power options to speak of! Just the 383 Super Commando 4 bbl engine, rare 4 speed stick, floor console, buckets, swivel tach, 3:23 posi, dual exhaust, black on black with Magnum 500's and redline tires! A real beautiful car!

BODY:

starting front to back, nose is real clean, pass fender had a tap at some point, the dent was pulled but never resurfaced, so its still the original color and metal, no patches or repairs. Hood is solid and original to the car, radiator support is excellent, solid, original driver condition, un-restored. Lower fenders just starting to need a little attention. Cowl / windshield filler panel is excellent as well.
Both doors are in very nice solid condition, still has the VIN tag where its supposed to be, door jambs are excellent and the doors close like it's a new car. Roof area and sweeps down the sides are excellent on this rare Fastop body style. Rear quarters were done long ago and are fine for cruising around town, but if you want this to be a Barrett-Jackson caliber car, the quarters need restoring. The trunk lid is original needs resto. Trunk pan has a couple of small holes, as does the rear floor pan, but for a car 46 years old, still very good condition. Frame rails are also in very nice condition and solid.

INTERIOR:

Starting from the front, dash pad was sun beat and cracked so I removed it and found that the metal dash is in excellent shape and almost new underneath where the pad sat. Sun visors are nice originals. Headliner needs replacement, but all the metal rods are present to be reused. All the gauges work, but would need a good cleaning since the car has never been taken apart nor messed with (which is how you want to find a car like this). This interior has never been restored, so after all this time, it is needing new padding and covers, but the metal frames for the buckets are perfect, and the rear seat frames were taken apart cleaned and painted with Eastwood metal treatment and are ready for new padding and covers. Front seats are still original and haven't yet been disassembled. All door panels and rear side panels are original and show very minor wear. (they are still too nice to replace) and they are the factory pieces not repros so they're worth keeping. Rug needs to be replaced. Super rare 4 speed center console needs restoring but is complete and comes with the extremely hard to find swivel tach! Original steering wheel is nice, not perfect, but I didn't see the need to replace it. One cool feature of the Fastop body style that no other Mopar has, is the Flow-Thru Ventilation system! The rear package tray on this car is perforated and when the steering column vents are pulled, fresh air flows from front to the back of the car pulling any smoke or stale air out the rear package tray through the perforations and out the bottom of the car! Real cool and all original and untouched from the factory! And of course, the rear package tray is in excellent undamaged condition, probably not an easy item to find or replace.

ENGINE / DRIVE TRAIN:

All original matching numbers 383 Super Commando 4 bbl engine, rare 4 speed stick (factory orig. Inland shifter still in place), 3:23 posi, dual exhaust! Sounds like a Muscle car to me! I don't believe this drivetrain has ever been rebuilt or even out of the car, as I have gone over it front to back and if it ever was removed, I can't find any evidence of it as all the factory clips and fasteners are still there with none missing. Looks to still retain its factory radiator as well. This car still has left handed wheel lugs for both the drivers side front and rear wheels! That's not something you run into anymore. I believe auto makers stopped using this practice in 68 when they just went with regular wheel lugs all the way around. This Sport Fury also comes with its original magnum 500's which have a chrome wheel lip not trim rings, but the wheels on it now are from a 68 which do have trim rings, both sets go with the car. This car runs and drives effortlessly, smooth on highways and easy around town. Since it was not ordered with power steering, it has the factory modified steering box which is actually easier to steer than most non power steering cars.

for posterity (UPDATE. Sorry I did NOT know this car was on FCBO before, several times apparently. first time I have seen it).

 

[bluefury361]

Private and dealer sales can't possibly be used as a gauge since the true number is never given, usually to cut down on sales tax. Then add in the human emotional element .... Price guides are completely unreliable

We just have to agree to disagree.

 

[polara71]

ok

 

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[The Horvaths]

How long has the black Fury been for sale now? At least as long as I've been in the hobby, I'm sure. The seller makes me sick.

 

[fury fan]

I think $5500 is a good ballpark for that orange Fury, it's a modified car and would take a LOT of money to take it beyond a home-made-looking custom car that is not completed. Modified cars like this pretty much require you to follow the path the previous person(s) was on.

For C-bodies, they either have to be stock and very nice, or high-dollar modified to get big $$ (and even then the modified cars won't recover the investment).

Issues I see that IMO keep it's value down.
painted bumpers and front grille
trim removed (some may like that)
C-pillar and roofline trim removed (yuk!)
is not an original 4-speed car
413 not a desirable engine for building a car like this, unless this one has really fresh/good ring seal and decent CR (meaning, not a rebuild with the old 8:1 parts-store pistons)
traction bars are removable, but further the 'home-made' look
doorpanels were recovered, over top of water-warped hardboards, and attached with buttons/screws along the bottom edge


Now with all that said, it's one color, shiny and straight, and if it runs as well as it looks, it would be a fun toy to beat on without worry about abusing an original car.

 

[fury fan]

 

[72Fury]

Another price guideline, for those that have not seen it.
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[Cee Bodies]

For me, it was the antenna...

hahahahaha

 

[69monaco]

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R PP23 1970 PLYMOUTH SPORT FURY GT 2-dr hardtop coupe 440ci V8 3x2bbl 390hp 960 3200 9600 12800 19200 28800 .

Okay , i will buy your sport fury GT 6bbl for 28800!!!!....