1967 Plymouth Sport Fury III Fast-Top **88,900 miles**

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Haha! Your right, i got all butt hurt right away.....what was I thinking entering this dragon's den!

Big style and humor points for admitting that and coming back Badbird .. good luck with the sale or like James/Samplingman said keep it and hang out and learn/fix it

It's a great looking project/driver ... even if I have a soft spot for 67 SF and the color

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Hagerty, like NADA, are out in left field. Hagerty doesn't even have a category for your car since their #4 doesn't include rust at all. Hagerty values my 68 Mustang at almost $30K which I personally do not believe whatsoever. Where you got your value I have no idea also since Hagerty puts a #4 Fury III 2dr coupe with 440HP at just over 6K. I'd say a 440HP Fury wins out over a 383 Sport Fury. I get my values from Collector Car Market Review every month which is based on sales from auctions to ordinary private party. On the other hand Hagerty bases theirs on auctions of course, everybody does, but instead of completed private sales they use asking prices instead. Huge difference in asking price vs. final selling price..

Hagerty is an insurance company, right? I would think values would be replacement value, different from actual value, usually higher. Even actual sales is based on a collector commodity. Just because Joe Shmoe paid three times the going rate for that Fury last year, doesn't mean a buyer would be willing to pay that this year.
 
Wait a sec....tallhair...you are a staff member of a C body site, and you don't own a C???

I happen to know of one for $8900 and it's the right color.....:eek:ccasion14:
 
As far as the rear quarters that are being made.......... Fred Flintstone could make better ones with a wooden bat!! There terrible. It takes longer to get them to fit right then it would take to have Jesse James build you a custom motorcycle!!

That could be true, but those are not all facts, some just plain assumptions. Apparently what you don't know is that rear quarters are produced for this car which saves drastically on the cost. I've had it looked at by a few pros so I'm not totally in the dark. Still with paint, yes it would cost an arm and a leg but no where near your numbers. I have the car priced around a #4 car using the Hagerty's tool, whether or not that's accurate it's a starting point since there aren't a whole lot of '67's around. Where are you getting the value from? All I'm doing is trying to find the car a good home. I saved this car and it's pretty cool so just back off a little. I needed a starting point and this happens to be the price, never said it was set in stone. The Hagerty tool has a #4 at $8200 and #3 at $11,300 After speaking with a good body and paint guy that's done some really nice restorations with documented rust repair on a few B bodies I felt better about this Sport Fury. I just don't think it's as extensive as your making it out to be. I agree, if the quarters had to be fabricated from scratch then yes it would be some serious cost involved, that's not the case though....
 
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Big style and humor points for admitting that and coming back Badbird .. good luck with the sale or like James/Samplingman said keep it and hang out and learn/fix it

It's a great looking project/driver ... even if I have a soft spot for 67 SF and the color

Look down :)

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Hagerty, like NADA, are out in left field. Hagerty doesn't even have a category for your car since their #4 doesn't include rust at all. Hagerty values my 68 Mustang at almost $30K which I personally do not believe whatsoever. Where you got your value I have no idea also since Hagerty puts a #4 Fury III 2dr coupe with 440HP at just over 6K. I'd say a 440HP Fury wins out over a 383 Sport Fury. I get my values from Collector Car Market Review every month which is based on sales from auctions to ordinary private party. On the other hand Hagerty bases theirs on auctions of course, everybody does, but instead of completed private sales they use asking prices instead. Huge difference in asking price vs. final selling price. As for my estimate on rust repair and paint at 8K to start, if farmed out, I stand by that along with some other pros. At $50/hour, if you can find it out here, you can easily surpass 100 hours in total body work on that car just in labor no parts or materials.

Yeah it just depends on how far someone wants to take it I guess. like i said I'm not saying the Hagerty tool is spot on but a starting point. #4 also says incomplete which this car isn't and finding parts for these is probably a worse task than rust repair, to a certain extent. I think a lot of the guys on here obviously don't value it the same as someone that isn't the leading C body expert but instead just wants a cool old driver that you don't see, because I sure haven't seen one on the road lately. I had a guy come look at it the other day and he seems interested, claims he has a '70 Challenger and '68 GTX, He wasn't nearly as brutal as this crew, lol!
 
Generic Quarters are made for just about everything, problem is it is bad metal ,gauge and fit........ To get quarters that will be right would require used or NOS.

I get my prices from sales.......

These aren't generic Asian made, they're good quality from Canada. A friend used them on his E body and the shop thought they were great, not some podunk restoration either, dude dropped over 60k.
 
Hagerty is an insurance company, right? I would think values would be replacement value, different from actual value, usually higher. Even actual sales is based on a collector commodity. Just because Joe Shmoe paid three times the going rate for that Fury last year, doesn't mean a buyer would be willing to pay that this year.

I don't disagree but like I said in the first post about hagerty, It's just a starting point and I know Hagerty isn't exact value rather a small guideline. I think there's only 1 '67 Sport Fury for sale in the country that I could find so one has to start somewhere. I'm also not in a big hurry to off the car, that makes for an even better reason to price Her a little high. The last few months I've been trying to hang on to Her but with what's going on in life right now it's becoming more and more difficult:( Time will tell....
 
Big style and humor points for admitting that and coming back Badbird .. good luck with the sale or like James/Samplingman said keep it and hang out and learn/fix it

It's a great looking project/driver ... even if I have a soft spot for 67 SF and the color

Look down :)

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That was my intention all along and it still may happen. Uncle Sam kicked me in the nuts pretty hard just weeks after I bought it but the more time I spend here in the dragon's Den the more I ponder ideas on how to trick one's significant other, hahaha!!!! If you know what I mean.....
 
As far as the rear quarters that are being made.......... Fred Flintstone could make better ones with a wooden bat!! There terrible. It takes longer to get them to fit right then it would take to have Jesse James build you a custom motorcycle!!

That's why you don't use the entire quarter, section it in..
 
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