1971 Chrysler AM 8 track radio wiring question

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I have radio model 3501 165 and have a question on the wiring. It has a connector containing a black, dark green and violet wire. I imagine a ground and speaker(s) wire. I think this is just a single speaker unit but don’t know. The red for sure is 12 v power. I have checked on here and online today but no luck. Any help on what the black, dark green and violet wire are to be connected to will be much appreciated. Thanks!

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The radio wiring schematic is in the factory service manual. They are ALL in there.

The three wires coming from the radio go to the Clectron "divider box" whose wiring then goes to the speakers. Of which there are THREE for the AM/8-track radio where there are no rear speakers. IF there are rear speakers, then a double-gang fader switch is used to put the rear speakers into the mix. The divider box makes the three front speakers work with side-to-side balance.

Chrysler was the only OEM I know of that did the three front speakers, back then. Made for a better listening experience with rear speakers, too, to me. Another reason their factory stereos sounded much better than GMs and especially Fords, back then. The better Chrysler speakers helped, too.

Now, if you want to wire things "normally", you can "1-Wire" the speakers and then use a separate ground wire to complete the circuit at each speaker, I suspect.

Just my experiences,
CBODY67
 
Thank You CBODY67. I don’t have the factory service manual. That would have been my first look. Easy to find old schematics online for $$$ and other similar Mopar radios about the same age but those wire colors didn’t come close to what I need. Thanks Again, Marty
 
The radio wiring schematic is in the factory service manual. They are ALL in there.

The three wires coming from the radio go to the Clectron "divider box" whose wiring then goes to the speakers. Of which there are THREE for the AM/8-track radio where there are no rear speakers. IF there are rear speakers, then a double-gang fader switch is used to put the rear speakers into the mix. The divider box makes the three front speakers work with side-to-side balance.

Chrysler was the only OEM I know of that did the three front speakers, back then. Made for a better listening experience with rear speakers, too, to me. Another reason their factory stereos sounded much better than GMs and especially Fords, back then. The better Chrysler speakers helped, too.

Now, if you want to wire things "normally", you can "1-Wire" the speakers and then use a separate ground wire to complete the circuit at each speaker, I suspect.

Just my experiences,
CBODY67
Just to add to @CBODY67 comments, all 8 Track radios were capable of playing stereo 8 track cartridges and contained the 3 front speakers for that purpose plus some rear speakers. As stated the Cletron is needed to do that and it is located in the glove box and the wiring connector is just behind the glove box. The quality of stereo tapes back then was pretty poor but nonetheless it was a first step, and the Phillip's AM/FM such radios actually played pretty good stereo FM stations if they were in fairly close reach as stated as well by CBODY67.
 
The basic connections for the 1971 Chrysler AM 8 track radio are as follows:
- Red (single) = 12V power
- Chassis = Ground
- Black (#2) in the three terminal connector = Speaker common
- Violet (#1) in the three terminal connector = Speaker left channel
- Dark green (#3) in the three terminal connector = Speaker right channel

More specifically:

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Plus the wiring from the rear speaker connector:
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For more, see the 1971 Chrysler Plymouth Chassis Service Manual at MyMopar.
 
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"Car" radios were more about "sound" than quality of such, back then. AM radios had their static issues plus a limited frequency response range that was possible for that format. In the middle 1980s, when "AM Stereo" tried to get off the ground (GM had that option on some of their higher-level factory radios, and it DID sound almost as good as the normal FM Stereo stations, back then). FM's advantage was that it was not affected by electrical interference from many sources, inside and outside of the car.

The 8-track tapes' advantage was that it took the "quietness" of FM and made the music portable and customizable. The tape speed of about 3.75 inches/second (1/2 of what a home reel-to-reel tape recorder/player used) was plenty good for sound frequencies of about 100hz-10Khz, with some better quality tapes going up from there, for those that cared. Cassettes ran at 1/2 the 8-track tape speed, which made the tape quality much more important for good 8Khz+ frequencies, with higher-density magnetic media and such. Plus the ability to easily record at will, on the portable units and the '72 Chrysler optional players.

There were some 8-track recorders back then, for the home market, but they were more about transferring music than pure recording one's own music, as I recall, back then. A device that was sitting on a table or desk, non-portable, as a general rule.

As good as the Chrysler car units were, the ultimate best radios were still the "home units". With 100W amps, speakers that would hit the full audible frequency range, and speakers that could be placed to accentuate the "right channel/left channel" orientation for a very good stereo experience, rather than just "sound" (i.e., "boombox" sound with no channel separation).

In the earlier years of stereo vinyl, it seemed that the sound engineers seemed to work to accentuate the "stereo experience" of side-to-side separation. With the overlapping signals filling in the gap between the speakers, so to speak. Sounded really neat, especially on orchestral music where you could pick out where the various instruments were seated in the orchestra, side to side, for a really good sound experience . . . if you cared about such.

So, Chrysler's 5-speaker factory stereo radios provided probably the best sound experience of any OEM back then, from what I heard myself. Some people appreciated it, given its automotive environment, as others probably did not. BTAIM. Doing it all with the available amplifier power of back then with available speaker technologies, too. A good pre-cursor to what was to come later with the Alpine-built "spatial imaging" sound systems in the LH Chryslers.

To me, one of the things that really made the factory stereos work was the placement of the front speakers aimed upward, so their sound reflected off of the windshield, rather than being "buried" under the instrument panel in the kick panels. Such that the sound could be imaged from the windshield, for a nice "front row concert experience" (concerts, back then, were typically orchestral in nature rather than otherwise). With their better amps and speakers, even the later Chrysler Formals had very good 4-speaker systems. With enough distance between all of the speakers to kind of give that "concert hall" experience.

Enjoy!
CBODY67
 
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Thank You All for your responses. I bench tested this radio outside today and it worked pretty well. Several AM stations received in Columbus, Ohio area. Volume, treble/bass, fader, tune control and push buttons all worked as they should. Kind of surprised. Only used 2-4” midrange speakers in testing but they worked.
I don’t have an 8 track tape to test so I will wait on that. Thanks Again All.
 
Back in about 1978, I got a new Silverado to drive. "Gut Loaded", including the factory AM/FM/8-track stereo radio. Later I made a visit to one of the Half-Price Books/Records & Tape stores. They had a multitude of 8-track tapes for $1.00 each, so I got a few. Some of the neater ones were the compilations of "Cruising 196_" tapes. Quite neat, I thought.

In current times, with "vintage" being more "in", they'll probably cost more.

CBODY67
 
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