NOT MINE 1971 Newport Royal - $6,000

[LocuMob]

Remember that Hamtramck Historical has the literature that came out early or before the cars themselves. I wouldn't expect to see a midyear model in their archives, generally speaking.

In the referenced ad in the prior posting, I would like to know if that is a USA ad or an ad that was for the Euro market. I found the picture of the car in the meadow, but without the ad copy and the watermark of our Euro associates' website on it. If it midght be a USA ad for the domestic market, Google might have found one without the watermark?

None of the info at www.hamtramck-historical.com has any mention of the Newport Royal, other than that ONE section of the different models. Pages of the Dealer Order Guide which could have been added after the guide was originally sent to the dealers. But that's the ONLY mention of the Newport Royal or the 360 V-8 that was standard in it. Which made me remember getting a flier at the local dealership well after the 1971 models were introduced for sale.

On the referenced window sticker's VIN, what might that indicate the production date to be? I find it interesting as to the cost of the optional 383 4bbl engine. It looks more like it's a price that it would have been over a 383 2bbl rather than a 360 2bbl, to me.

I'm wondering how many Royals were really built with the 360 and how many with 383s or 440s. Back in the earlier 1970s, the Exxon service station I bought gas from and became friends with the guy that ran it (a retired aircraft mechanic). An elderly lady who lived across the side street had a '71 Royal 360. She complained to him that it didn't run right and the local dealer could not make it any better. He tried and got it a little bit better, but told me it was still not as good as it should be. Also saying that they were all that way, with the 360. No issues with the 383s. Which is the limit of my knowledge about them. Which also might be why the 400 2bbl replaced the 360 in '72?

Y'all enjoy!
CBODY67

 

[saforwardlook]

There was no inherent problem with how the 360-2 bbls ran when new and they felt very much like the 383-4 bbls rather than the lazy feeling 383-2 bbls. That is because the 360-2 bbl and the 383-4 bbl engines used the high stall torque converters to give quicker, stronger torque in off the line accelerations, whereas the 383-2 bbls used the low stall converters that made those engines feel tired. If someone offered me the choice of a vehicle equipped with the 360-2 bbl I would choose that over the 383-2 bbl every time personally. But the 383-2 bbls were probably more fuel efficient overall than the 360-2 bbls due to the converters. The 360s had a relatively longer stroke than a 383 which enhanced the 360s low end torque as well.

The problems that emerged with how they ran were due to the poor design of the Holley 2 bbls on the 360s wherein the attaching rod for the air cleaner was screwed into the air horn of that carburetor and not into the base of the carburetor that was usually characteristic for placement of the air cleaner hold down rod. There wasn't enough strength in the air horn to keep the repeated tightening down of the air cleaner over time and the effects of repeated hot and cold cycles carburetors go through over time to prevent problems. In short, the air horns warped, more so and more quickly when the air cleaners were tightened down too tightly. The warpage caused poor idling and stumbles and pass outs after time and a simple rebuild would not fix any of it. The air horns needed to be pressed back to flat and the owner needed to be told not to tighten the air cleaner any more than necessary. Eventually, Chrysler offered a service fix bulletin using a bridge kit to enhance the strength of the air horn and help minimize the problem.

I was in the fuel lab when all of this mess was coming down on the Holley rep stationed in the lab.

The problem still exists today when rebuilders do not know the background of these carburetors and don't know about the need to press the airhorns flat when rebuilding them.

 

[69CoronetRT]

On the referenced window sticker's VIN, what might that indicate the production date to be?

CBODY67

On the top row, to the right of the VIN is the Vehicle Order Number (VON). The first three numbers are 129 indicating a scheduled production date of January 29 (1971)

 

[69CoronetRT]

Remember that Hamtramck Historical has the literature that came out early or before the cars themselves. I wouldn't expect to see a midyear model in their archives, generally speaking.

We try to add whatever information we come across. We've added updates when possible.
A lot of times, the new information will be released in Product information Bulletins or other similar special alerts. This 'one off' information is harder to come by.

 

[rapidtrans]

Yes. Found another brochure confirms ayilar.

For his 71 company car Dad ordered a S.F. with the new 360. I thought it ran pretty well in a C but Dad didn’t care for it and went back to a big block for 72 in his Newport Custom. Seems that 360 for some reason used a prodigious amount of oil in one year.

 

[CBODY67]

Thanks for finding that ad!

CBODY67

 

[T-revorNobody]

There's now a newer CL ad, bout a week old..

 

[ayilar]

The interior looks really clean. The engine bay has some unusual arrangements. Do I see an aftermarket A/C in the engine bay and under the dash?

 

[tbm3fan]

There was no inherent problem with how the 360-2 bbls ran when new and they felt very much like the 383-4 bbls rather than the lazy feeling 383-2 bbls. That is because the 360-2 bbl and the 383-4 bbl engines used the high stall torque converters to give quicker, stronger torque in off the line accelerations, whereas the 383-2 bbls used the low stall converters that made those engines feel tired. If someone offered me the choice of a vehicle equipped with the 360-2 bbl I would choose that over the 383-2 bbl every time personally. But the 383-2 bbls were probably more fuel efficient overall than the 360-2 bbls due to the converters. The 360s had a relatively longer stroke than a 383 which enhanced the 360s low end torque as well.

The problems that emerged with how they ran were due to the poor design of the Holley 2 bbls on the 360s wherein the attaching rod for the air cleaner was screwed into the air horn of that carburetor and not into the base of the carburetor that was usually characteristic for placement of the air cleaner hold down rod. There wasn't enough strength in the air horn to keep the repeated tightening down of the air cleaner over time and the effects of repeated hot and cold cycles carburetors go through over time to prevent problems. In short, the air horns warped, more so and more quickly when the air cleaners were tightened down too tightly. The warpage caused poor idling and stumbles and pass outs after time and a simple rebuild would not fix any of it. The air horns needed to be pressed back to flat and the owner needed to be told not to tighten the air cleaner any more than necessary. Eventually, Chrysler offered a service fix bulletin using a bridge kit to enhance the strength of the air horn and help minimize the problem.

I was in the fuel lab when all of this mess was coming down on the Holley rep stationed in the lab.

The problem still exists today when rebuilders do not know the background of these carburetors and don't know about the need to press the airhorns flat when rebuilding them.

Consequently why I have a Motorcraft 2150 2bbl. on my 360 and have three Holley 2bbl. carbs that aren't worth ****.

 

[tbm3fan]

The interior looks really clean. The engine bay has some unusual arrangements. Do I see an aftermarket A/C in the engine bay and under the dash?

Has the classic York compressor that is in my Park Lane, Cougar, and Mustang.

 

[Snotty]

Has the classic York compressor that is in my Park Lane, Cougar, and Mustang.

They came in AMCs too. AMC used Ford type of ACs as well as starters and regulators. "All Makes of Car." Chevy distributors and steering columns, Chrysler auto transmissions (from '71 on), Dana rears....

That under-dash AC looks like it would be a real knee killer!