For Sale 1972 Imperial 4DR $8,800.00 obo (PA) CL

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Found this one just snooping around the Internet: Nice, just not the color I'm looking at presently...plus I do like leather :lol:seats.

Imperial!!!Make me an offer

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yes, repeat, not a very accommodating buyer. He wants cash in a brown paper bag, in the back of a Waffle House, at 1am! Tried to see if he would do Paypal, or send more pics. No deal.
 
I must be losing my mind...don't remember the one above being a repeat...but there has been a bunch that I see. Here's one I just saw on FB. I'll make a better post in the right thread later. What is 125,000:.? $12,500 US?
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No offense but I wouldn't accept PayPal as payment, either.
1. There's the PP fees but, most importantly,
2. they can can open a phony dispute the moment they drive away and disappear.
Stan,
You are correct there is a fee. I paid the fee as a buyer twice this year with PayPal which hits the seller on the other side when receiving payment. I just adjust the total and pay in 2 transactions because there is a limit on $$ amt per transaction and so it evens out and seller doesn't get screwed.
 
Doc, what's the total limit now and what's the fees now, also?
I believe it's 10K...If I remember right on the last Imperial I sent 6500 first transaction and found out seller received like 6350 so I sent second 6500 plus double the deficit from first transaction to the seller so I paid 13K plus fee which is a %.
 
yep, that is what I did also, or you can just send a cash payment through Paypal, and they receive the full amount and you pay the fees. i have always offered the seller a gross up on the fees.
 
How about deposit into my bank electronically and when payment is good, car ships? Or same thing with a check?

That's how I've sold a dozen cars. Why do I need to sign up for another 3rd party piece of e-commerce crap to make a 25 y/o geek rich?
 
How about deposit into my bank electronically and when payment is good, car ships? Or same thing with a check?

That's how I've sold a dozen cars. Why do I need to sign up for another 3rd party piece of e-commerce crap to make a 25 y/o geek rich?
The big unknown...what if you catch yourself in an long distance scam and seller never ships... and then skips? PayPal and credit card married together with the payment let's me sleep better. A small price to pay in my opinion...I know not everyone's take on it. It is different when you buy from a forum member I should add...Kenny and I were communicating for months...But, PayPal was used for convenience. The first Imperial I used the bank transfer method and my bank wanted almost a DNA sample from the seller...But, I doubt I had any recourse if deal was a scam. It was a dealer so I felt confident.
 
The big unknown...what if you catch yourself in an long distance scam and seller never ships... and then skips? PayPal and credit card married together with the payment let's me sleep better. A small price to pay in my opinion...I know not everyone's take on it. It is different when you buy from a forum member I should add...Kenny and I were communicating for months...But, PayPal was used for convenience. The first Imperial I used the bank transfer method and my bank wanted almost a DNA sample from the seller...But, I doubt I had any recourse if deal was a scam. It was a dealer so I felt confident.

Well in my case (our case?) I'm usually dealing in something fairly obscure like an Imperial or a Mexican Ramcharger, not a '70 Charger which I'd assume is better bait. Not that it really proves anything, but it's something I guess.

I also draft a written contract that contains a copy of the title an each parties driver's license. In the case of both Mexican RC's, my California sellers (who were only advertising locally on CL) had Bank of America accounts. Of course I did some google snooping to verify their existence. We exchanged signed contracts, I deposited cash into their BOA accounts at a MI branch and arranged my own shipper. If they'd flaked, I at least had something for a local investigation.

Could it have been faked? I suppose. Then again, I bet I could create a fake pay pal account by the end of the day. Or a fake eBay account.

In the case of selling, I tell each buyer up front that the cars don't leave until the cash is in my account. Which might have been 2 weeks (one was a check, the other was electronic). Neither objected. I used a business account in which I keep a super low balance (for tenants to deposit rent). In one of these, the buyer was Australian and wanted me to drop the car with Murray Park. (I offered because it's fun to drive old Mopars through Ohio.) I told him the car needed tires for that much of a drive. Went to my tire store on a Saturday morning, which I think was early Sunday in Oz, and had him call the tire shop and read off his CC#, accent and all. Gave me a chance to say "G'd day mate!"

All doable without a 3rd party getting a cut.
 
Well in my case (our case?) I'm usually dealing in something fairly obscure like an Imperial or a Mexican Ramcharger, not a '70 Charger which I'd assume is better bait. Not that it really proves anything, but it's something I guess.

I also draft a written contract that contains a copy of the title an each parties driver's license. In the case of both Mexican RC's, my California sellers (who were only advertising locally on CL) had Bank of America accounts. After. Of course I did some google snooping to verify their existence. We exchanged signed contracts, I deposited cash into their BOA accounts and arranged my own shipper. If they'd flaked, I at least had something for a local investigation.

Could it have been faked? I suppose. Then again, I bet I could create a fake pay pal account by the end of the day. Or a fake eBay account.

In the case of selling, I told each buyer up front that the cars don't leave until the cash is in my account. Which might have been 2 weeks (one was a check, the other was electronic). Neither objected. I used a business account in which I keep a super low balance (for tenants to deposit rent). In one of these, the buyer was Australian and wanted me to drop the car with Murray Park. (I offered because it's fun to drive old Mopars through Ohio.) I told him the car needed tires for that much of a drive. Went to my tire store on a Saturday morning, which I think was early Sunday in Oz, and had him call the tire shop and read off his CC#, accent and all. Gave me a chance to say "G'd day mate!"

All doable without a 3rd party getting a cut.
I've always preferred the cash and handshake deal and trip to DMV together to sign papers. But, the scarcity of Imperials and slim chance they're close by for personal inspection and payment makes acquiring more to the herd quite a challenge...But, very satisfying in the end. The transport game is another circus for a different thread.
 
I've always preferred the cash and handshake deal and trip to DMV together to sign papers. But, the scarcity of Imperials and slim chance they're close by for personal inspection and payment makes acquiring more to the herd quite a challenge...But, very satisfying in the end. The transport game is another circus for a different thread.

Tru dat. I don't think I've ever bought anything where I didn't consider the paint job as kaput, so I've used some sketchy shippers.
 
yes, repeat, not a very accommodating buyer. He wants cash in a brown paper bag, in the back of a Waffle House, at 1am! Tried to see if he would do Paypal, or send more pics. No deal.
Gents,

I just emailed the seller, I sent the following:
Hey,


Have you sold your Imperial yet? Again, if you are willing to accept some sort of electronic payment rather than cash, and a payment to hold it, I am still willing. But to show up with cash in hand is unworkable for me. I have to inspect the car before final payment, and I am over 1500 miles away from you.


I am willing to protect your interests, but you will have to work with me, as I am quite busy and have only small windows of opportunity to inspect/visit.


Regards,



And I received the following:

I am pretty sure that I would rather saw my own arm off then continue with the long distance troll operation like this. Anytime you’re in the area send me an email and the car that I have for sale I will sell you.

I pride myself on being an honest and straight shooting purchaser and collector of Mopars. I hope this guy has luck in the future.
 
Gents,

I just emailed the seller, I sent the following:
Hey,


Have you sold your Imperial yet? Again, if you are willing to accept some sort of electronic payment rather than cash, and a payment to hold it, I am still willing. But to show up with cash in hand is unworkable for me. I have to inspect the car before final payment, and I am over 1500 miles away from you.


I am willing to protect your interests, but you will have to work with me, as I am quite busy and have only small windows of opportunity to inspect/visit.


Regards,



And I received the following:

I am pretty sure that I would rather saw my own arm off then continue with the long distance troll operation like this. Anytime you’re in the area send me an email and the car that I have for sale I will sell you.

I pride myself on being an honest and straight shooting purchaser and collector of Mopars. I hope this guy has luck in the future.
That seller seems paranoid...maybe in person he's reasonable? Think he's old school...afraid of the Internet, etc...might be ok if someone could scope it out for you in that area.
 
That seller seems paranoid...maybe in person he's reasonable? Think he's old school...afraid of the Internet, etc...might be ok if someone could scope it out for you in that area.
Mike,
We had a conversation about this guy about 3 weeks ago. He hasn't changed. I had hoped he would moderate some and accommodate a serious buyer.
Thanks,
 
Mike,
We had a conversation about this guy about 3 weeks ago. He hasn't changed. I had hoped he would moderate some and accommodate a serious buyer.
Thanks,
Hang in there...maybe he will change his ways by the end of the summer and when a Pennsylvania winter is on his doorstep...he might email you back when no one bites...
 
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