NOT MINE 1973 Imperial Couple Triple Black WA State FB Marketplace "MobyDic"

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$14K. Link:
1973 Chrysler imperial lebaron
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I checked out this Imperial with full intent to buy. After looking at in person, not going to buy now. Triple black fuselage Imperial coupe is a unicorn! This one needs some long lasting love.

First off, the sellers (son + elderly father) are honest straight shooters. I have no affiliation. I did not talk to them about price. I may be first to check it out. If you want more details, DM me. Description and pics follow.

This one is a true rainy Pacific Northwest 140,000-mile 70's survivor. A survivor of another sort. It's been kept alive, thankfully, and reminds me of many old cars I used to see on dealer lots in the 80's. Current owner bought from a dealer in 1990's. Owner is a big Imperial lover. It's been parked since 2001, in current owner's garage mostly. Prior to the dealer selling the car in the 90's, the car was painted white, a new vinyl top was installed and appears to be a new headliner. And this is where the description begins.

- There are numerous spots where rust is coming through the paint.
- Under the white paint, can see repairs with Bondo in the typical rusty spots. Can also see lacquer paint checking, from previous repairs to the black paint. Some dents painted over, epically a large crease on bottom of passenger door.
- Paint job is Earl Scheib quality. Light coat of paint. Poor masking. Sandpaper marks on trim. Overspray. White paint may have been chose to hide flaws. Ran a magnet over some of the surface and noticed more Bondo from this.
- The top has significant rust bubbling under it, and also delaminating from some spots. However, there is no typical rust seen at the lower corners of the rear window. All the bubbling is away from this. These corners are not smooth. Guessing repairs were made here. Heavy staining from water intrusion on package shelf correlates with vinyl top bubbling. Rear window molding painted black, possibly to hide sanding marks.
- Headliner replaced. Pillows and factory panel from above rear seat gone and replaced with a cover. Some mold or staining on the new headliner (all installed prior to current owner). Oddly, white sun visors installed while rest of headliner and interior are black.
- Here is the strangest thing I've seen in awhile: Steering column is canted to one side and upwards. Steering wheel noticeably closer to seat than normal. Owner explained steering column assy is from a New Yorker. For some reason, it was installed when repairing something with the steering system. Perhaps the coupler used in repair or steering box are from another car, and the Imperial assy did not fit? Flex coupler not fully engaged on steering shaft splines, I saw. Odd.
- Power seats do not work. Somebody disabled controls in doors and installed New Yorker switches at seat base. Seating surfaces are OK and slightly supple. Back of seat has heavy water staining or mold and ersatz wood cracked from shrinking.
- All but one power windows work, all very slowly.
- AutoTemp2 with rear AC. Seems to constantly blow warm to hot defrost air. Fan speed changes when on max. A/C compressor will not run. Rear A/C blower functions at both speeds. Servo has cracks. No signs of ATC vacuum plumbing or wiring being tampered with. No signs of heater core leaks.
- Has General Motors wheels, slightly wider than stock. Owner installed so could accommodate 255/70/15 rubber. Tire tread depth looks new but are ancient and cracked.
- Some signs of collision repair at rear most panel in trunk. I did not inspect undercarriage closely, but did not see any structural corrosion. New fuel tank and pickup from Vans.
- Has starter switch, relay or solenoid issues. May have bad tooth on engine FW. Starts and runs like a tired 440. Goes into gear. I chose to not drive. Looks mostly stock but some smog stuff disabled. Brake booster needs to be replaced (vacuum leak).
- Headlight doors and lamps work. Wiper motor works. Buzzers work. Radio works. Fixed antenna replaced OEM telescopic. Has 8-tracks in glove box but did not play.
- Missing or loose interior and exterior trim in spots. Other old car stuff like knobs falling falling off, remote rearview mirrors not working, remote mirror knob broken and so on.

Bottom line, if somebody is willing to spend significant amount of time/money on body work, plus deal with ATC, Headliner issues, electrical gremlins ... this could be a good starting point. Triple black fuselage coupes are so awesome. Hopefully somebody with the time and money to burn can bring this one back to it's glory.

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YM23:
Imperial LeBaron
Medium
2 Door Hardtop
T3C: jefferson ave plant
1973
Jefferson Avenue, MI, USA
249770: Sequence number
E85: 440 cid 4 barrel V8 350hp
D34: Light Duty Automatic Transmission
TX9: Black Diamond (Dodge) Exterior Color
MRX9: Trim - Opt. Decor Group, Leather Bucket Seats, Black
000: Full Door Panels
322: Build Date: March 22
219119: Order number
V1X: Full Vinyl Top, Black
H53: ATC
R48: Power Antenna
L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
L35: Cornering Lamps
M45: fendeer skirts?
P31: Power Windows
P41: Power Door Locks
N88: Auto Speed Control
G31: OS RH Manual Standard Mirror
C21: Center Front Seat Cushion
G11: Tinted Glass (all)
R32: Dual Rear Speakers

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Trunk area, facing rear (factory welds?)
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$14K. Link:
1973 Chrysler imperial lebaron
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I checked out this Imperial with full intent to buy. Not going to buy now Triple black fuselage Imperial coupe is a unicorn! First off, the sellers (son + elderly father) are honest straight shooters. I have no affiliation. I did not talk to them about price. I may be first to check it out. If you want more details, DM me. Description and pics follow.

This one is a true rainy Pacific Northwest 140,000-mile 70's survivor. A survivor of another sort. It's been kept alive, thankfully, and reminds me of many old cars I used to see on dealer lots in the 80's. Current owner bought from a dealer in 1990's. Owner is a big Imperial lover. It's been parked since 2001, in current owner's garage mostly. Prior to the dealer selling the car in the 90's, the car was painted white, a new vinyl top was installed and appears to be a new headliner. And this is where the description begins.

- There are numerous spots where rust is coming through the paint.
- Under the white paint, can see repairs with Bondo in the typical rusty spots. Can also see lacquer paint checking, from previous repairs to the black paint. Some dents painted over, epically a large crease on bottom of passenger door.
- Paint job is Earl Scheib quality. Light coat of paint. Poor masking. Sandpaper marks on trim. Overspray. White paint may have been chose to hide flaws. Ran a magnet over some of the surface and noticed more Bondo from this.
- The top has significant rust bubbling under it, and also delaminating from some spots. However, there is no typical rust seen at the lower corners of the rear window. All the bubbling is away from this. These corners are not smooth. Guessing repairs were made here. Heavy staining from water intrusion on package shelf correlates with vinyl top bubbling. Rear window molding painted black, possibly to hide sanding marks.
- Headliner replaced. Pillows and lights from above rear seat gone and replaced with a cover. Some mold or staining on the new headliner (all installed prior to current owner). Oddly, white sun visors installed while rest of headliner and interior are black.
- Here is the strangest thing I've seen in awhile: Steering column is canted to one side and upwards. Steering wheel noticeably closer to seat than normal. Owner explained steering column assy is from a New Yorker. For some reason, it was installed when repairing something with the steering system. Perhaps the coupler used in repair or steering box are from another car, and the Imperial assy did not fit? Flex coupler not fully engaged on steering shaft splines, I saw. Odd.
- Power seats do not work. Somebody disabled controls in doors and installed New Yorker switches at seat base. Seating surfaces are OK and slightly supple. Back of seat has heavy water staining or mold and ersatz wood cracked from shrinking.
- All but three power windows work, but very slowly.
- AutoTemp2 with rear AC. Seems to constantly blow warm to hot defrost air. Fan speed changes when on max. A/C compressor will not run Rear A/C blower functions at both speeds. Servo has cracks. no signs of ATC vacuum plumbing or wiring being tampered with. No signs of heater core leaks.
- Has General Motors wheels, slightly wider than stock. Owner installed so could accommodate 255/70/15 rubber. Tires look new but are ancient and cracked.
Some signs of collison repair at rear most panel in trunk. I did not inspect undercarriage closely, but did not see any structural corrosion. New fuel tank and pickup from Vans.
- Has starter switch, relay or solenoid issues. May have bad tooth on engine FW. Starts and runs like a tired 440. Goes into gear. I chose to not drive. Looks mostly stock but some smog stuff disabled. Brake booster needs to be replaced (vacuum leak).
- Headlight doors and lamps work. Wiper motor works. Buzzers work. Radio works. Fixed antenna replaced OEM telescopic. Has 8-tracks in glove box but did not play.
- Missing or loose interior and exterior trim in spots. Other old car stuff like knobs falling

Bottom line, if somebody is willing to spend significant amount of time/money on body work, plus deal with ATC, Headliner issues, electrical gremlins, this could be a good starting point. Triple black fuselage coupes are so awesome. Hopefully somebody with the time and money to burn can bring this one back to it's glory.

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YM23:
Imperial LeBaron
Medium
2 Door Hardtop
T3C: jefferson ave plant
1973
Jefferson Avenue, MI, USA
249770: Sequence number
E85: 440 cid 4 barrel V8 350hp
D34: Light Duty Automatic Transmission
TX9: Black Diamond (Dodge) Exterior Color
MRX9: Trim - Opt. Decor Group, Leather Bucket Seats, Black
000: Full Door Panels
322: Build Date: March 22
219119: Order number
V1X: Full Vinyl Top, Black
H53: ATC
R48: Power Antenna
L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
L35: Cornering Lamps
M45: fendeer skirts?
P31: Power Windows
P41: Power Door Locks
N88: Auto Speed Control
G31: OS RH Manual Standard Mirror
C21: Center Front Seat Cushion
G11: Tinted Glass (all)
R32: Dual Rear Speakers

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Trunk area, facing rear (factory weld

$14K. Link:
1973 Chrysler imperial lebaron
View attachment 691211
I checked out this Imperial with full intent to buy. Not going to buy now Triple black fuselage Imperial coupe is a unicorn! First off, the sellers (son + elderly father) are honest straight shooters. I have no affiliation. I did not talk to them about price. I may be first to check it out. If you want more details, DM me. Description and pics follow.

This one is a true rainy Pacific Northwest 140,000-mile 70's survivor. A survivor of another sort. It's been kept alive, thankfully, and reminds me of many old cars I used to see on dealer lots in the 80's. Current owner bought from a dealer in 1990's. Owner is a big Imperial lover. It's been parked since 2001, in current owner's garage mostly. Prior to the dealer selling the car in the 90's, the car was painted white, a new vinyl top was installed and appears to be a new headliner. And this is where the description begins.

- There are numerous spots where rust is coming through the paint.
- Under the white paint, can see repairs with Bondo in the typical rusty spots. Can also see lacquer paint checking, from previous repairs to the black paint. Some dents painted over, epically a large crease on bottom of passenger door.
- Paint job is Earl Scheib quality. Light coat of paint. Poor masking. Sandpaper marks on trim. Overspray. White paint may have been chose to hide flaws. Ran a magnet over some of the surface and noticed more Bondo from this.
- The top has significant rust bubbling under it, and also delaminating from some spots. However, there is no typical rust seen at the lower corners of the rear window. All the bubbling is away from this. These corners are not smooth. Guessing repairs were made here. Heavy staining from water intrusion on package shelf correlates with vinyl top bubbling. Rear window molding painted black, possibly to hide sanding marks.
- Headliner replaced. Pillows and lights from above rear seat gone and replaced with a cover. Some mold or staining on the new headliner (all installed prior to current owner). Oddly, white sun visors installed while rest of headliner and interior are black.
- Here is the strangest thing I've seen in awhile: Steering column is canted to one side and upwards. Steering wheel noticeably closer to seat than normal. Owner explained steering column assy is from a New Yorker. For some reason, it was installed when repairing something with the steering system. Perhaps the coupler used in repair or steering box are from another car, and the Imperial assy did not fit? Flex coupler not fully engaged on steering shaft splines, I saw. Odd.
- Power seats do not work. Somebody disabled controls in doors and installed New Yorker switches at seat base. Seating surfaces are OK and slightly supple. Back of seat has heavy water staining or mold and ersatz wood cracked from shrinking.
- All but three power windows work, but very slowly.
- AutoTemp2 with rear AC. Seems to constantly blow warm to hot defrost air. Fan speed changes when on max. A/C compressor will not run Rear A/C blower functions at both speeds. Servo has cracks. no signs of ATC vacuum plumbing or wiring being tampered with. No signs of heater core leaks.
- Has General Motors wheels, slightly wider than stock. Owner installed so could accommodate 255/70/15 rubber. Tires look new but are ancient and cracked.
Some signs of collison repair at rear most panel in trunk. I did not inspect undercarriage closely, but did not see any structural corrosion. New fuel tank and pickup from Vans.
- Has starter switch, relay or solenoid issues. May have bad tooth on engine FW. Starts and runs like a tired 440. Goes into gear. I chose to not drive. Looks mostly stock but some smog stuff disabled. Brake booster needs to be replaced (vacuum leak).
- Headlight doors and lamps work. Wiper motor works. Buzzers work. Radio works. Fixed antenna replaced OEM telescopic. Has 8-tracks in glove box but did not play.
- Missing or loose interior and exterior trim in spots. Other old car stuff like knobs falling

Bottom line, if somebody is willing to spend significant amount of time/money on body work, plus deal with ATC, Headliner issues, electrical gremlins, this could be a good starting point. Triple black fuselage coupes are so awesome. Hopefully somebody with the time and money to burn can bring this one back to it's glory.

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YM23:
Imperial LeBaron
Medium
2 Door Hardtop
T3C: jefferson ave plant
1973
Jefferson Avenue, MI, USA
249770: Sequence number
E85: 440 cid 4 barrel V8 350hp
D34: Light Duty Automatic Transmission
TX9: Black Diamond (Dodge) Exterior Color
MRX9: Trim - Opt. Decor Group, Leather Bucket Seats, Black
000: Full Door Panels
322: Build Date: March 22
219119: Order number
V1X: Full Vinyl Top, Black
H53: ATC
R48: Power Antenna
L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
L35: Cornering Lamps
M45: fendeer skirts?
P31: Power Windows
P41: Power Door Locks
N88: Auto Speed Control
G31: OS RH Manual Standard Mirror
C21: Center Front Seat Cushion
G11: Tinted Glass (all)
R32: Dual Rear Speakers

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Trunk area, facing rear (factory welds?)
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Corrosion examples
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Steering column - hard to show how it is off axis.
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That vinyl top looks like it has quite a bit of rust under it. Overall, the car appears to have a lot of rust. I think the price is high for a car in that condition. Unless it was the car I always wanted, I would run.
 
A parts car may be necessary to tackle the resto on it, besides deep pockets.
 
$14K. Link:
1973 Chrysler imperial lebaron
View attachment 691211
I checked out this Imperial with full intent to buy. After looking at in person, not going to buy now. Triple black fuselage Imperial coupe is a unicorn! This one needs some long lasting love.

First off, the sellers (son + elderly father) are honest straight shooters. I have no affiliation. I did not talk to them about price. I may be first to check it out. If you want more details, DM me. Description and pics follow.

This one is a true rainy Pacific Northwest 140,000-mile 70's survivor. A survivor of another sort. It's been kept alive, thankfully, and reminds me of many old cars I used to see on dealer lots in the 80's. Current owner bought from a dealer in 1990's. Owner is a big Imperial lover. It's been parked since 2001, in current owner's garage mostly. Prior to the dealer selling the car in the 90's, the car was painted white, a new vinyl top was installed and appears to be a new headliner. And this is where the description begins.

- There are numerous spots where rust is coming through the paint.
- Under the white paint, can see repairs with Bondo in the typical rusty spots. Can also see lacquer paint checking, from previous repairs to the black paint. Some dents painted over, epically a large crease on bottom of passenger door.
- Paint job is Earl Scheib quality. Light coat of paint. Poor masking. Sandpaper marks on trim. Overspray. White paint may have been chose to hide flaws. Ran a magnet over some of the surface and noticed more Bondo from this.
- The top has significant rust bubbling under it, and also delaminating from some spots. However, there is no typical rust seen at the lower corners of the rear window. All the bubbling is away from this. These corners are not smooth. Guessing repairs were made here. Heavy staining from water intrusion on package shelf correlates with vinyl top bubbling. Rear window molding painted black, possibly to hide sanding marks.
- Headliner replaced. Pillows and factory panel from above rear seat gone and replaced with a cover. Some mold or staining on the new headliner (all installed prior to current owner). Oddly, white sun visors installed while rest of headliner and interior are black.
- Here is the strangest thing I've seen in awhile: Steering column is canted to one side and upwards. Steering wheel noticeably closer to seat than normal. Owner explained steering column assy is from a New Yorker. For some reason, it was installed when repairing something with the steering system. Perhaps the coupler used in repair or steering box are from another car, and the Imperial assy did not fit? Flex coupler not fully engaged on steering shaft splines, I saw. Odd.
- Power seats do not work. Somebody disabled controls in doors and installed New Yorker switches at seat base. Seating surfaces are OK and slightly supple. Back of seat has heavy water staining or mold and ersatz wood cracked from shrinking.
- All but one power windows work, all very slowly.
- AutoTemp2 with rear AC. Seems to constantly blow warm to hot defrost air. Fan speed changes when on max. A/C compressor will not run. Rear A/C blower functions at both speeds. Servo has cracks. No signs of ATC vacuum plumbing or wiring being tampered with. No signs of heater core leaks.
- Has General Motors wheels, slightly wider than stock. Owner installed so could accommodate 255/70/15 rubber. Tire tread depth looks new but are ancient and cracked.
- Some signs of collision repair at rear most panel in trunk. I did not inspect undercarriage closely, but did not see any structural corrosion. New fuel tank and pickup from Vans.
- Has starter switch, relay or solenoid issues. May have bad tooth on engine FW. Starts and runs like a tired 440. Goes into gear. I chose to not drive. Looks mostly stock but some smog stuff disabled. Brake booster needs to be replaced (vacuum leak).
- Headlight doors and lamps work. Wiper motor works. Buzzers work. Radio works. Fixed antenna replaced OEM telescopic. Has 8-tracks in glove box but did not play.
- Missing or loose interior and exterior trim in spots. Other old car stuff like knobs falling falling off, remote rearview mirrors not working, remote mirror knob broken and so on.

Bottom line, if somebody is willing to spend significant amount of time/money on body work, plus deal with ATC, Headliner issues, electrical gremlins ... this could be a good starting point. Triple black fuselage coupes are so awesome. Hopefully somebody with the time and money to burn can bring this one back to it's glory.

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YM23:
Imperial LeBaron
Medium
2 Door Hardtop
T3C: jefferson ave plant
1973
Jefferson Avenue, MI, USA
249770: Sequence number
E85: 440 cid 4 barrel V8 350hp
D34: Light Duty Automatic Transmission
TX9: Black Diamond (Dodge) Exterior Color
MRX9: Trim - Opt. Decor Group, Leather Bucket Seats, Black
000: Full Door Panels
322: Build Date: March 22
219119: Order number
V1X: Full Vinyl Top, Black
H53: ATC
R48: Power Antenna
L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
L35: Cornering Lamps
M45: fendeer skirts?
P31: Power Windows
P41: Power Door Locks
N88: Auto Speed Control
G31: OS RH Manual Standard Mirror
C21: Center Front Seat Cushion
G11: Tinted Glass (all)
R32: Dual Rear Speakers

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Trunk area, facing rear (factory welds?)
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Very good review of this Imperial, thank you for sharing! On a side note, the coupes didn't have pillows on the interior C-pillar like the 4drs did, they had just the plain sail panels pictured (good pics too). Also, the six-way power seat controls were were not mounted in the door during these years. The switch was located at the bottom of the seat like you found them.

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YM23T3C249770 Is now owned by @ANDRE LEITE DE BARROS. Photos and text from the ad for records (the engine is shown in a video on FB, can't embed it here):

"This is my dad’s car and he’s ready to let it go after over 30 years of owning it. It’s been in his garage for the last 20 and hasn’t been driven much. The gas tank, sending unit and fuel pump were replaced this summer and the thermal-quad carb was professionally rebuilt in October. It starts right up, runs and drives but it could use some fine tuning. This car is mostly original with the exception of the hub caps and wheels. The hub caps are off a 1961 Imperial and are worth nearly $1000 for the set. These hubcaps were original made to only fit the Imperial wheels from that era so dad had to find special deep wheels that they would fit on. It also has an aftermarket antenna that was installed on the driver side rear. The original antenna is still in the passenger fender but it’s not working right now. The black leather interior is in great shape for a 51-year-old car but it’s not perfect. The bucket seat backs have cracked and are oxidized. All of the electric window's work except for the back passenger one.The body is in great shape but has a few issues. You can see in the picture that there’s a rust spot and a scrape in the driver’s side fender. There’s also some rust on under the hood on the inside of the driver’s fender but there’s no rust in the floor, quarter panels, doors, trunk or the other fender. It’s solid. The original paint color was black. and the white paint is probably 40 years old, so it has a few chips and scratches. The vinyl roof is in good shape. The headlights open and close when turned on. The gas gauge works on and off and the ignition switch works but needs to be replaced or repaired. It has 141,000 miles.This was the longest vehicle made in 1973. The hood is gigantic! It drives like you’re floating down the road. Whoever buys it will have to trailer it because the tires are 20 years old, and some have cracks in them. The Car is located in Washington state about 70 miles north of Seattle on Camano Island."



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