jason99
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Too many good cars available right now. I need a barn.
For Sale 1974 Gran Fury Brougham
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jason99
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Where did you see reproduction window switches? Someone converted my Monaco from power to manual so maybe someday I'll swap them back.
bigmoparjeff
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A friend of mine spotted them in the latest Classic Industries catalog just the other day. They are available in both concave and convex button styles.
Plymouth All Models Parts | Window Switch | Classic Industries
Plymouth All Models Parts | Window Switch | Classic Industries
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68 4spd Fury
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Looks to have most other options but the PW. Maybe whoever was a smoker and couldn't get the vent windows with power windows?
78Brougham
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No power vents in the formal years unfortunately...
brougham brummel
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I had auto temp in one of my new yorkers years ago.I loved listening to the system work until a plastic part broke,fell onto the floor,and stopped working correctly.heh.B.Brummel
1970FuryConv
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Lusting is after cars is fun, and if you're married, you don't have to feel quite so guilty.
1970FuryConv
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Great reference, Jeff! Thanks!
78Brougham
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You missed my point John... you should know be better than that by now. It's the POWER windows that are a pain in the *** not the crank ups!
78Brougham
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I'm not sure how long you've been working on or owning these old Mopars, so don't take this the wrong way, but I've owned a shithouse full of these over the years and the more I own the more I like the crank up windows. Even though, I've got tons of extra motors to fit or repair my power window cars, I'm really getting tired of the maintenance and time I spend fighting them.
Just saying.
75LandYacht
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My apologies my friend.. I miss understood.
78Brougham
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Not to worry my friend! I figured we got our signals crossed. I should've explained better.
So are you going to pick me up when you're going to buy it?
So are you going to pick me up when you're going to buy it?
75LandYacht
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Oh it’s that close to you? I was bidding on Rays black gran fury as well. It might still be a consideration. But that green one close to you is gorgeous.Not to worry my friend! I figured we got our signals crossed. I should've explained better.
So are you going to pick me up when you're going to buy it?
bigmoparjeff
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My first C Body, 1982. I started out all buttons and no cranks at a young age, and I'm sure that influenced my tastes in how I want my cars equipped to this day.
Not the most flattering picture, but me at age 16 in the process of rebuilding the rear power window motors in 1983. Also rebuilt the front motors and power vent motors.
Somewhat better picture of me at 18, working on my newly acquired 1966 Imperial. Nothing worked in the driver door when I got this car, including the outside door handle, so it got the full refresh: door latch, window mechanism, window and vent window motors.
In 2012, This 300 was at my shop to have the power window motors rebuilt, and I haven't needed to do any since then. Therefore the answer to your question is 29 years.
I've had a few other C Bodies of my own in between.
I will agree that power windows are more prone to problems. Switches and motors don't last forever. I disagree that they can't be made reliable over the long term. Once the window regulator is properly cleaned and lubricated, and the motor either rebuilt or replaced, they should work fine for many years, or really many decades. The original motors are pretty easy to rebuild, which is mostly just cleaning and new grease on the gears. I've found that about one in five will be trouble makers and have to be replaced. Dorman was selling very good replacement motors, but it looks like they may have dropped them recently, which is a shame since they were less than $50 at Rock Auto. Now that these cars are 50 years old, the manual window cars are due for almost as much maintenance as the power window cars. Most of the rollers on the regulators stopped rolling many years ago, and are now just sliding on the tracks. I've had a couple manual window 4 door Chryslers that never had their rear windows rolled down since new and the regulators were completely seized. You'll almost never find that on a power window car.
To me, crank windows are strictly low rent. They are for Darts and Novas and Pintos, not for Chryslers and Gran Sedan Broughams. I don't mind the extra time and expense (and occasional hassle) to drive in style. I'll be installing power windows in every car that I restore if not already equipped. Lately I've been driving my '70 Newport on errands and to local car shows, which is a 4 door hardtop, and it's ridiculous to have to walk around the car and open every door to roll the windows up and down. I have a set of power regulators from a '70 New Yorker ready to go in when the time comes. I even installed a set of Chrysler regulators in my '65 GMC when I restored that many years ago. They worked flawless for the eleven years that I drove the truck. All junkyard parts, regulators from a '68 New Yorker and switches from a Cordoba.
On a daily driver, I consider power windows a must have safety feature. Sometimes the passenger side window is fogged up on the outside and you need to roll it down to pull out onto a street, and unless you have really long arms or you're driving a very small car, that's tough to do without power windows. Additionally, they are an absolute must in the big rig when backing up in the dark.
Jeff
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75LandYacht
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ALL THOSE cars yours Jeff? I counted over 35...
bigmoparjeff
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All except the nice '66 300 Convertible, VW Rabbit and a '72 Imperial coupe hidden in the second photo.
The first photo is a bit dishonest, as it was raining out, and many of the cars look much nicer than they actually were. Only the cars in the furthest row, plus the green Newport and '67 Imperial ran. The rest had blown, seized, or no motors. Most of those cars are long gone. Two went to Sweden and were restored. Two were sold in the US, six are still with me, and seven were parted out.
The five fusey Imperials in the second photo have been sold. The '72 Coupe is in France and the rest went to US buyers, fate unknown. The blue '73 T&C was stripped out and sold to the derby guys, as it was way too rusty to restore. Much of the interior of that car is now installed in a '73 Fury wagon in England.
The remainder of the cars in the second and third photos are still here.
Jeff
bigmoparjeff
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'78 and still in the collection. It needs to be fixed up now, but I have most of the parts needed to do it.
75LandYacht
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Thank you sir.. you’re my new BFF.. lol I’d like to come and play in your sand box. Lol
75LandYacht
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Jeff, what’s her story? Newport? New Yorker? Red or Bronze? Do tell!
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