WANTED 1981 New Yorker/Newport Road Wheels

[fury fan]

I kinda figured you knew about the difference. I had forgotten that the lip was different too.

And I noticed some do polish better, but didn't have enough wheels to correlate that to a wheel type, I figured I was just getting tired of polishing!

Yes, I would agree that the flat type is forged, and the one with extra material to reinforce it is possibly cast. Casting would be cheaper, so would make sense for later-years cost-cutting. But casting can so easily have internal voids and occlusions, whereas forging doesn't, so a cast wheel sounds kinda risky to me, so I would almost bet that both are forged. But then it wouldn't make sense to develop a whole new tool to forge the same wheel. Actually, the more I think about it, I realize that I know a lot about different things, but I also know I have no idea what the factory engineers were up to in the early 80s.

 

[fury fan]

PS - stumbled across an E58 CMX on ebay and thought 'I wonder if Amazing has seen this?' And then I saw it was yours. I'd kinda like to have that car but can't make it fit into my life at this time. Always thought a 5.9 Maggie Dippy copcar or J-body would make a cool cruiser.

 

[amazinblue82]

PS - stumbled across an E58 CMX on ebay and thought 'I wonder if Amazing has seen this?' And then I saw it was yours. I'd kinda like to have that car but can't make it fit into my life at this time. Always thought a 5.9 Maggie Dippy copcar or J-body would make a cool cruiser.

Yeah, thats mine. I have two E58's left that will be "following the procession" (nightwatch blue, and another burnished silver metallic).

I did a whole cop thing (318 cop powertrain, rear end, suspension, from an M body -- 125 mph certified speedo from R body) with this one too. This is a fun car (same car, different lighting) so if you did it, you'd enjoy the outcome. Of course, a new "crate" 5.9 would be MORE fun.

The one on now ain't gettin' much love .. yet. The fella I had working on it had a health issue, otherwise it would be in my building. Pics arent good either .. i'll fix all that next week and relaunch it.

Heck I might fix it .. but i gotta put it ahead of my 67 Crown Coupe and i DONT wanna do that again.

anyway, this was my one of my other E58 cars.. this darn thing is still all over the internet. E58. TTop, Sure Grip, console,

 

[Mr C]

Amazingblue82 ,I've looked for 20 spokes forever and have never even found someone that had a set for sale...you are lucky congratulations on your acquisition.

Lovely Miradas, although I personally prefer the J body Imperial, I appreciate these-especially with the T-top.

 

[amazinblue82]

Amazingblue82 ,I've looked for 20 spokes forever and have never even found someone that had a set for sale...you are lucky congratulations on your acquisition.

Lovely Miradas, although I personally prefer the J body Imperial, I appreciate these-especially with the T-top.

thanks .. i always loved those 81-83 Imps .. but never owned one :-(

 

[fury fan]

I remember your 1st blue Mirada from ebay, that's from before I 'knew' you here, I think. That burg is fabulous!

I had an 80 Cordoba many years ago and it was really great in the snow - probably because the 120hp 318 just didn't have enough to spin the tires.

I always admired the 81-83 Imp, but then I bought a Lincoln Mark VII LSCs, then a 2nd one, and even Mopar loyalty can't bridge that gap. I'll choose an LSC over the J-Imps every day of the week. Far superior car in just about any category (except for the badge on it).

 

[Dobalovr]

Owned 3 81-83 Dobas loved them all but they never looked as good as yours Ray. Very very nice....still wish the pineapple that was selling this LS wouldn't have changed his mind....

 

[commando1]

WOW!

 

[polara71]

My favorite year on the Mirada was 82. It seems they got everything right and tight on the 2. The unavailability of the t bar on the 83 puts that below the 82.

 

[amazinblue82]

WOW!

couple more for ya commando1

those are 15x10 cop rims (fabbed from TWO real cop rims, not the aftermarket ones) out back. sorry for overspray in last photo .. that was first road test after building it over the winter.

I drove it like this a few years, then went to the 17 inch wheels.

 

[commando1]

15x10s on a Mirada, of all cars. I never would have thunk...

 

[amazinblue82]

15x10s on a Mirada, of all cars. I never would have thunk...

five inch back spacing and they will snug in there pretty good... front and back the fenderwells are QUITE generous. I went with my standard 4.5 inch .. a little "old school" stickin' out

somebody said they did it for NASCAR when they designed the J's .. but i dunno about that. i DO know there's a lotta room for big meats.

 

[fury fan]

I had forgotten this until seeing more of these big-tire pics.
I put 235/60-15 tires on 15x7 Road Wheels (I think they were 7", they were from a 77 car) on my 80 Cordoba when I was in my early 20s. The fronts ended up rubbing on the brake hose and wearing it thin, and a hose popped in a rush-hour hard stop. I was inexperienced and didn't know to look for that. So every body else - learn from my misfortune!

 

[amazinblue82]

I had forgotten this until seeing more of these big-tire pics.
I put 235/60-15 tires on 15x7 Road Wheels (I think they were 7", they were from a 77 car) on my 80 Cordoba when I was in my early 20s. The fronts ended up rubbing on the brake hose and wearing it thin, and a hose popped in a rush-hour hard stop. I was inexperienced and didn't know to look for that. So every body else - learn from my misfortune!

a 235/60 tire with a 15x7 wheel rubbed? thats not a "big" tire in fact its like an OEM size for the car. you may have had a mechanical issue?

i tested a 235/70 on a 15x8 wheel, 4.0 inch bksp, in front and the tire hit the front edge of fender. i knew that was the edge of the envelop.

the back rub i had was with a 15x10 w/o airshocks ..body bounce on top of tire. more than 6.0 inch bksp, you will rub the left on driver side leaf spring. and honestly 15x10 with 6.0 bksp is on the edge of envelope (~0.5 in. leaf clearance on driver side).

none of this is "gospel".. just what i observed on my cars. best advice is do ur measurements.

 

[fury fan]

a 235/60 tire with a 15x7 wheel rubbed? thats not a "big" tire in fact its like an OEM size for the car. you may have had a mechanical issue?

Agreed, not a big tire, and fit fine on my 77 Doba (where the wheels/tires came from). don't know if a mech issue (but no symptoms of that, it was a 70k car), or if someone had replaced hoses and tightenend them up with a funny arc in them.

i tested a 235/70 on a 15x8 wheel, 4.0 inch bksp, in front and the tire hit the front edge of fender. i knew that was the edge of the envelop.

Taller tire than mine, wider wheel pulls sidewalls out a bit, and that 4.0BS put all that extra wheel width to the outside. Not much difference on paper, but totally different animal for sure, not surprised that it rubbed the fenderlip, I guess.

none of this is "gospel".. just what i observed on my cars. best advice is do ur measurements.

100% agreed there, I mentioned my hose issue just to plant seeds of thought in whoever reads it. I've mentioned in several C-disk conversion threads that the hose brackets must be moved when going from drums to disc, because if not the hose can get really tight at max suspension travel and full turning. Some people accept the info, some rebuke it - but I can say when you instantly lose brake pressure during a hard stop it feels like you've floored the throttle!