300 Hurst broadcast sheet - velour interior?...Help please
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jrdudeman
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To my knowledge, there was a few more than one 300 Hurst with manual windows. My dad owned one of the manual window Hurst's sometime in the 1980's or 1990's. Trevor may have seen this car at my dads place way back then.
Fury Pursuit
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Northcoast300h
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After all the replies, I agree the interior was changed...and I think for the best. These velour seats are just much more comfortable than the original leather. I'll chalk it up to all the other changes I made. Most non mopar guys can't spot them, but you guys will notice. Here are some.
1) Gone are the goofy clown paint on the rims. Reminds me of those Barnum and Bailey tiny circus clown cars.
2) Removed ugly antenna and put a power antenna which lifts thru rear qtr panel.
3) Don't know any other car with its model name on the hood, so moved to back qtr panel and replaced with "440 4 barrel" badges
4) Ugly original pin striping replaced with red, and in few areas not replaced at all.
5) Ugly brownish gold replaced with a true gold tone.
6) 1969 Mustang Mach 1 front spoiler looks stock to me.
7) Pentastar added to driver's side. We all know the silly reason why the Pentastar was only on passenger side, correct?
8) Lots more period correct additions which is what Hurst should have built.
I got this car from a junkyard decades ago. I know this car won't win any awards and that 300 Hursts are nothing special, They're just standard 300's with a fiberglass hood and deck painted gold, nothing else. Chrysler's bean counters told Hurst to remove all the performance equipment off of the prototype and it was still the most expensive Chrysler of 1970, which is why it failed.
I believe the 300 Hurst is the only car Hurst did in its history without any Hurst equipment which has to make you chuckle. I like the car because its so unique and was a good idea which Chrysler could have made money if managed correctly....but was ruined by corporate america which is prevalent in our US history.
Thanks for all the information guys!
1) Gone are the goofy clown paint on the rims. Reminds me of those Barnum and Bailey tiny circus clown cars.
2) Removed ugly antenna and put a power antenna which lifts thru rear qtr panel.
3) Don't know any other car with its model name on the hood, so moved to back qtr panel and replaced with "440 4 barrel" badges
4) Ugly original pin striping replaced with red, and in few areas not replaced at all.
5) Ugly brownish gold replaced with a true gold tone.
6) 1969 Mustang Mach 1 front spoiler looks stock to me.
7) Pentastar added to driver's side. We all know the silly reason why the Pentastar was only on passenger side, correct?
8) Lots more period correct additions which is what Hurst should have built.
I got this car from a junkyard decades ago. I know this car won't win any awards and that 300 Hursts are nothing special, They're just standard 300's with a fiberglass hood and deck painted gold, nothing else. Chrysler's bean counters told Hurst to remove all the performance equipment off of the prototype and it was still the most expensive Chrysler of 1970, which is why it failed.
I believe the 300 Hurst is the only car Hurst did in its history without any Hurst equipment which has to make you chuckle. I like the car because its so unique and was a good idea which Chrysler could have made money if managed correctly....but was ruined by corporate america which is prevalent in our US history.
Thanks for all the information guys!
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3) don’t know any other car with it’s model name on the hood.
Well now you do! 1970 Dodge Super Bee
I’ve seen it on some but not all of them. So possible date or plant Variation. Or were removed or hood replaced.
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Well now you do! 1970 Dodge Super Bee
I’ve seen it on some but not all of them. So possible date or plant Variation. Or were removed or hood replaced.
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3175375
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I didn’t know why the pentastar was only on the right, did some research and it was, only on left hand drive vehicles. It moved to the left side on right hand drive vehicles.
Imperial Pete
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I remember reading somewhere it was always on the sidewalk side so when you walked past you knew it was a Chrysler product. From all of the original cars I have looked at the Airtemp Sticker is the same. Its either on the RH rear side window or on the RH side of the rear window. Over here in Australia they are both on the LH Side. Why not put the pentastar on both sides? Save some money maybe? Here in Aus the pentastar was gone from the fenders in 1972.
Northcoast300h
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I wanted to post the actual letterhead from engineers at Chrysler but couldn't find it. Letter stated drivetrain engineers said only the passenger Pentastar is needed, because that's the only side of the car the competition will see as Mopars speed by them in the fast lane. Silly, isn't it?
Oh, and thanks 413 for correcting me. I didn't know other cars had their model on the hood...although it really shouldn't be there. Much cooler to have engine size on hood.
Oh, and thanks 413 for correcting me. I didn't know other cars had their model on the hood...although it really shouldn't be there. Much cooler to have engine size on hood.
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Northcoast300h
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Thanks guys. So some old guy at a car show said "Imp set up" was a special order from a customer and most of them had to do with an interior change. Back then any C body could be had with Imperial seats and door skins by placing a special order with the factory. Since my build sheet had "Imp set up in pen, (then in black marker) and it also has A12 and 38 special order, I'm going with what the old guy said. My 300 Hurst is a special one of one.
Anyone have any info to refute this and knock me off my throne? Hee, Hee!
Anyone have any info to refute this and knock me off my throne? Hee, Hee!
Fury Pursuit
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69CoronetRT
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first....are you serious or just posting in jest?
According to the CAR LIFE road test on the 300-Hurst, the Imperial front seat is a bit wider than the normal Chrysler front seat. So much, they stated, that the manual window handles would hit the seat with the door closed, which is why all but about 5 300-Hursts were built with power windows (no clearance issues), they claimed. No reason to doubt them on that, back then.
Obviously, the floor pan between the normal C-body and Imperial were the same, so everything bolted right in. But Imperials had power windows as standard back then, as I recall.
The 300-Hurst was never meant to be a sales success. More of a yearly promotional car for Hurst. Think "Limited Edition" as all of the prior Oldsmobiles were. What they did was interesting and looked better than some of the Oldsmobiles they had previouisly done.
To me, the gold tones looked a bit odd, but that's the way they were, so it was good. Taking that color off of the wheels makes the car look like a normal Chrysler, rather than the special car it was.
Chrysler put engine size/designation nameplates on the hood of lots of B-body hood scoops back then. With decals available on the performance Valiants/Dusters, too.
NO need to use two Air Temp decals on the car, nor PentaStars, either. Chrysler put their PentaStar on all of their literature (and had for many years prior) back then, so the company was identified by it.
I will admit that there was no specific performance equipment available on the 300-Hurst that could not have been ordered on a normal Chrysler 300 back then. Which is what made the special shade of gold, with the white body color and related paint stripes, special to the car. The Imperial interior addition helped things along in the upscale luxury performance realm of things.
Just some thoughts,
CBODY67
Obviously, the floor pan between the normal C-body and Imperial were the same, so everything bolted right in. But Imperials had power windows as standard back then, as I recall.
The 300-Hurst was never meant to be a sales success. More of a yearly promotional car for Hurst. Think "Limited Edition" as all of the prior Oldsmobiles were. What they did was interesting and looked better than some of the Oldsmobiles they had previouisly done.
To me, the gold tones looked a bit odd, but that's the way they were, so it was good. Taking that color off of the wheels makes the car look like a normal Chrysler, rather than the special car it was.
Chrysler put engine size/designation nameplates on the hood of lots of B-body hood scoops back then. With decals available on the performance Valiants/Dusters, too.
NO need to use two Air Temp decals on the car, nor PentaStars, either. Chrysler put their PentaStar on all of their literature (and had for many years prior) back then, so the company was identified by it.
I will admit that there was no specific performance equipment available on the 300-Hurst that could not have been ordered on a normal Chrysler 300 back then. Which is what made the special shade of gold, with the white body color and related paint stripes, special to the car. The Imperial interior addition helped things along in the upscale luxury performance realm of things.
Just some thoughts,
CBODY67
Fury Pursuit
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This is inaccurate as well.
The clearance issues with the manual window regulators was in the rear seating, not the front.
As far as a sales success, that was the goal, and it was intended to be successful with 2,000 cars expected to be sold. And that didn’t happen…most of us know why.
Northcoast300h
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Wow, you guys know a lot more than I do. I just wanted a unique car to restore and drive around rather than a 68 Mustang or 70 Camaro RS, which I've owned and loved driving them, but they made like millions of those, so there's nothing unique about them.
Since you guys implied the old guy I met is wrong, what does "Imp Set Up" mean?
Since you guys implied the old guy I met is wrong, what does "Imp Set Up" mean?
Fury Pursuit
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There was no implication “the old guy” was wrong.
He is wrong. Full stop.
“Imp set up”…if it’s original writing on the Broadcast Sheet are notes to “the line” to install Imperial seats. All but one 300/Hurst had Imperial interior.
Your interior has been modified with inserts, other than that it looks to be an original Hurst equipped car.
He is wrong. Full stop.
“Imp set up”…if it’s original writing on the Broadcast Sheet are notes to “the line” to install Imperial seats. All but one 300/Hurst had Imperial interior.
Your interior has been modified with inserts, other than that it looks to be an original Hurst equipped car.
69CoronetRT
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Hand written notations on broadcast sheets regarding interiors is very common so there's nothing out of the ordinary here.
1970 model year broadcast sheets display a wide range of two digit codes. Some of these codes and notations on the sheet are very common on 70 package cars like the AAR/TAs, Superbirds and Hursts.
And I think you'll find code 38 SPECIAL ORDER is typically found on 300-H broadcast sheets.
Fratzog
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