69 383 engine paint
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Chrylser Desert Turquoise (1867 Dodge pickup truck color) matched my '67 Newport 383 perfectly. Had to get it mixed (quart minimum). Worked great with an artist's brush. NOT in many auto supplies at all, a good paint store might mix it if they can cross-over the old code to new.
"Chrysler Blue" is much more available, BUT each brand might not be as accurate you might be perceived! One brand more like "Chevy Blue" and another one darker like "Ford Blue", by observation.
A few threads in here on what might match best.
Just some thoughts and observations,
CBODY67
"Chrysler Blue" is much more available, BUT each brand might not be as accurate you might be perceived! One brand more like "Chevy Blue" and another one darker like "Ford Blue", by observation.
A few threads in here on what might match best.
Just some thoughts and observations,
CBODY67
round & round we go ... 
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Yet Another Chrysler Turquoise Engine Paint Thread....But Maybe The Last?
a decade ago, i actually "planned to make a plan" to start a business to make the original turquoise engine paint.
LSS, kicked the tires on it, but the "experts" I enlisted coud NOT agree on the formula. Money saved, but the "problem' came back and bit me just two months ago.
my best results was using this brand. cap is NOT the color in the can. to me, it looks as "original' as the original.
it gave me first engine color below (not my engine but i used color on my '65 413 refresh, 5-6 other pre-'71 projects).
modern "Chrysler green" gave me what went on my '67 Newp 383 refresh two months ago.
you decide, but i wanted first color but i got second one.
..Yet Another Chrysler Turquoise Engine Paint Thread....But Maybe The Last?
a decade ago, i actually "planned to make a plan" to start a business to make the original turquoise engine paint.
LSS, kicked the tires on it, but the "experts" I enlisted coud NOT agree on the formula. Money saved, but the "problem' came back and bit me just two months ago.
my best results was using this brand. cap is NOT the color in the can. to me, it looks as "original' as the original.
it gave me first engine color below (not my engine but i used color on my '65 413 refresh, 5-6 other pre-'71 projects).
modern "Chrysler green" gave me what went on my '67 Newp 383 refresh two months ago.
you decide, but i wanted first color but i got second one.
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round & round we go ...
Yet Another Chrysler Turquoise Engine Paint Thread....But Maybe The Last?
i actually 'planned the make a plan" to start a business to make the original turquoise engine paint.
LSS, the "experts" enlisted coud NOT agree. Money saved, but the problem came back and bit me just two months ago.
my best results was this brand. cap is NOT the color in the can. to me, it looks as "original' as the original.
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it gave me first engine color below (not my engine but i used on my '65 413 refresh, 5-6 other pre-71 projects).
modern "Chrysler green" gave me what went on my '67 Newp 383 refresh two months ago.
you decide, but i wanted first one but i got second one.
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So the first one is correct for 69 as well?
here's some disclaimers - sorry for long answer
1. it is the color i compared my 69 non-HP engine to when we finished it.
2. i am traveling and do NOT have the finished '69 non-HP photo on my phone. I do have the sample color i wanted, thats actual pics i used ..dont even know if thats a 413) to pick the color in the two cans i showed.
I took degreased, original valve cover/intake that had sufficient samples of factory paint still on to get optically scanned, sprayed these recommended paints and then scanned them. Paint guy said formulae were essentially same. So did my eyeballs.
So we did original valve covers/intake before doing whole engine while it was out of the car. I stuck with it for other pre '71 my non-HP mills
3. so, my short answer is "Yes, its most correct for '69 to my eyes/tastes/lighting/camera brand, etc".
I only offer my experience up as "data points" (i am NO expert) but NOT as definitive "do that" advice to anyone AS THEY should test what THEY like
(its potentially a big decision for many kinds/qualities of restos, so thats left to others to decide for themselves IMHO).This is my '67 Newport done in modern "Chrysler Green" two months ago... too "blue" to ME. some people see it and they see "turquoise ... I don't.
here's some disclaimers - sorry for long answer
1. it is the color i compared my 69 non-HP engine to when we finished it.
2. i am traveling and do NOT have the finished '69 non-HP photo on my phone. I do have the sample color i wanted, thats actual pics i used ..dont even know if thats a 413) to pick the color in the two cans i showed.
I took degreased, original valve cover/intake that had sufficient samples of factory paint still on to get optically scanned, sprayed these recommended paints and then scanned them. Paint guy said formulae were essentially same. So did my eyeballs.
So we did original valve covers/intake before doing whole engine while it was out of the car. I stuck with it for other pre '71 my non-HP mills
3. so, my short answer is "Yes, its most correct for '69 to my eyes/tastes/lighting/camera brand, etc".
I only offer my experience up as "data points" (i am NO expert) but NOT as definitive "do that" advice to anyone AS THEY should test what THEY like
This is my '67 Newport done in modern "Chrysler Green" two months ago... too "blue" to ME. some people see it and they see "turquoise ... I don't.
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Cool, thx for the info
When I said "Desert Turquoise", that was what we chip-matched a valve cover on my '67 Newport 383 too. This was in the middle 1980s, as I bought the car in 1981 with 80k miles on it, unmolested. A 1967 Dodge pickup truck exterior acrylic enamel.
Thanks for all of the pictures and information.
In the 1990s, I bought some MP Hemi Orange engine paint in spray cars to paint a particle board cabinet I had bought. LOTS of clear in that spray paint! The particle board soaked it right up. Needed twice the amount! LOL
Considering the current state of affairs at STLA, I've come to trust OEM Mopar stuff less and less, compared to former times. This observation has expanded since they got away from their older rwd platforms in cars and trucks. Just me.
Just some thoughts,
CBODY67
Thanks for all of the pictures and information.
In the 1990s, I bought some MP Hemi Orange engine paint in spray cars to paint a particle board cabinet I had bought. LOTS of clear in that spray paint! The particle board soaked it right up. Needed twice the amount! LOL
Considering the current state of affairs at STLA, I've come to trust OEM Mopar stuff less and less, compared to former times. This observation has expanded since they got away from their older rwd platforms in cars and trucks. Just me.
Just some thoughts,
CBODY67
Near as I can figure, "Mopar Nation" wrestles with these vintage engine colors. seems like THEY'D (Chrysler-Stellantis) be interested in "certifying" the color "turquoise" THEY put on millions of engines .... rather than let those of us who care flounder out here.
Anyway, friendly advice is to try to get --- for any brand available today -- a "sample" of what is "advertised" as turquoise to see IF its close to what you want.
I bought 40 "Mopar" cans (used 30 of them, so 9 cans left and one can that wont rattle anymore), 10+ years ago .. even the same brand today MAY be different (environmental reasons, cost, whatever, may make the formulas change.)
I did my "turquoise" recon mission about 10 years ago. My example was this one .. turned up in two places, one of them from the UN-impeachable @Toolmanmike (think same as ours
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here about 2018.
the one below about 2012 - same picture, looks like turquoise to me.
engine seems (per OP description) to be a '69 340?.
anyway, whatever it is, that's my preferred "turquoise" right there. somebody else might be using/seeing something else.
This is the color I grew up on/remember from when I was barely tall enough to see over the fenders into an engine compartment.
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Anyway, friendly advice is to try to get --- for any brand available today -- a "sample" of what is "advertised" as turquoise to see IF its close to what you want.
I bought 40 "Mopar" cans (used 30 of them, so 9 cans left and one can that wont rattle anymore), 10+ years ago .. even the same brand today MAY be different (environmental reasons, cost, whatever, may make the formulas change.)
I did my "turquoise" recon mission about 10 years ago. My example was this one .. turned up in two places, one of them from the UN-impeachable @Toolmanmike (think same as ours
)here about 2018.
the one below about 2012 - same picture, looks like turquoise to me.
engine seems (per OP description) to be a '69 340?.
anyway, whatever it is, that's my preferred "turquoise" right there. somebody else might be using/seeing something else.
This is the color I grew up on/remember from when I was barely tall enough to see over the fenders into an engine compartment.
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your intake looks "turquoise-ish" to me.
ton of these colors references (chips and/or in words) out there. likely a version in Hamtramck archivies. This seems consistent with what I have learned/had in the fleet as a collector.
source: Mopar Engine Colors
ton of these colors references (chips and/or in words) out there. likely a version in Hamtramck archivies. This seems consistent with what I have learned/had in the fleet as a collector.
source: Mopar Engine Colors
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Here is my 70 in blue.
A lot of good info here guys!
In my defence, OP asked for "Duplicolor type paint" !
I would think the Mopar paint or the paint mixed for you would probably be better.
Paint P4120752AB | TascaParts.com
In my defence, OP asked for "Duplicolor type paint" !
I would think the Mopar paint or the paint mixed for you would probably be better.
Paint P4120752AB | TascaParts.com
nothng "wrong" with your answers chief.
lotta people like the Dupli-Color DE1619 and go with it all the time. People go with what they like/looks good to them.
Me? I am an "old man with a hat", alive for every year of the "turquoise" era, a bunch vintage stuff in the barn, and a stickler for factory colors -- as I see them at least.
Other elements the factory intended do not rise to my personal "gotta get it OE right" list with most of my vintage stuff.
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Studying the pictures and great comments again, even if not the true turquoise engine color, and if I'm reading everything correctly the Mopar can engine paint looks better to me than the Duplicolor. Plus it's a few cents cheaper!
DupliColor is a major vendor of OEM touch-up paint and build some of the OEM stuff dealerships sell from their OEM. They've been doing this for decades! Even in spray cans. Or course, the OEM paint colors use OEM formulas, if sold under the OEM brands.
Fireflite56
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I authored the Yet Another Chrysler Turquoise Engine Paint Thread....But Maybe The Last? thread and created the video linked there. I spent a lot of time looking at available options on the market, including DupliColor and Mopar paints. The only one I did not try that was suggested, aside from a custom mix, was the POR15 version. Out of what I tested, the Hirsch 1957-1958 Pontiac Turquoise was the best. With now 500 miles on the engine, it's still holding up great and has not changed shading at all. The only issue is that Hirsch discontinued all spray cans, so you have to purchase it as a quart and then buy a separate sprayer.
After I did all the work that I did, a longtime member of the Chrysler 300 Club asked for some information and physical samples for comparison. The 300 club does OEM points judging and looks very closely at stuff like this. Their previous best match to Chrysler Turquoise, PlastiKote, is no longer in production. After looking at his older Hirsch Chrysler Turquoise, the newest samples, and some other samples, he was surprised to agree that the Hirsch 1957-1958 Pontiac Turqoise was the best match. It's also noteworthy to mention that the club has an actual paint sample of that color from Chrysler, similar to when you see the paint charts for exterior colors.
It won't hurt my feelings if anyone disagrees or wants to use something else, but I like to be thorough and wanted to share my (very satisfied) findings with everyone else to make this easier.
After I did all the work that I did, a longtime member of the Chrysler 300 Club asked for some information and physical samples for comparison. The 300 club does OEM points judging and looks very closely at stuff like this. Their previous best match to Chrysler Turquoise, PlastiKote, is no longer in production. After looking at his older Hirsch Chrysler Turquoise, the newest samples, and some other samples, he was surprised to agree that the Hirsch 1957-1958 Pontiac Turqoise was the best match. It's also noteworthy to mention that the club has an actual paint sample of that color from Chrysler, similar to when you see the paint charts for exterior colors.
It won't hurt my feelings if anyone disagrees or wants to use something else, but I like to be thorough and wanted to share my (very satisfied) findings with everyone else to make this easier.
BK's 300
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I found Bill Hirsch Auto Paint to offer the best matches . My need was for a Bbody 383.
Worked and marched well!
BK
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