For Sale 69 newport convert.

[MrMoparCHP]

My 67 Barracuda, two 67 Valiants, a 73 Barracuda, none were black. I'll have to look at my friends survivor 68 Barracuda, I don't have the other Polara to check. Something in the future to look at.


Alan

 

[detmatt]

Body color pinch welds on my mostly original paint '67 Imp..

 

[Carmine]

Body color pinch welds on my mostly original paint '67 Imp..

They should be black, but I believe this operation was often missed AND the paint was something equivalent to poster-paint, thus it seems to come off over time.

 

[detmatt]

So they just wanted it to look blacked out for a few weeks...

 

[MrMoparCHP]

I have seen bulletins on the blackout with rocker trim, why would they issue that if all cars had it.


Alan

 

[Samplingman]

Ok, now we're just getting obsessive, like E-body guys (sorry Matt, no offense! )

 

[detmatt]

No worries, none taken. For what it's worth the pinch welds on the vert are painted body color too.

 

[Carmine]

If you've ever seen a light/bright colored car from 20' back, those welds stand out and look awful. That's why they were (supposed to be) blacked out. However, if you look at restorations (and probably a few survivors) this blackout operation is missed more often than radiator supports.

In other words, I wouldn't condemn an otherwise original car as "repainted" solely on that evidence. But it should be done, and I've even seen "survivors" where only the rockers had been re-sprayed because of stone chips. To leave them body color makes the car look like a shop-project.

 

[Snotty]

My -69 E63 code Newport and 383 engine is painted blue.

Really? Don't want to offend, but is it the factory motor?

 

[detmatt]

I don't think it was unusual for 383 4bbl cars that had ac to be blue or turquoise.

 

[MarPar]

mine is a 69 383 2bbl with a/c and it is turquoise. and im fairly sure it's original lol

 

[sauterd]

Not if it's an HP 383. Problem is, in '69 all 383s were simply a "G" in the VIN as this one is. I like in '70 where they made a distinction between L and N.

This car is sweet!

hey there, I'm confused. when i check the following website I get two version of the 383 for 1969, one a hi-po.

1966 to 1974 Chrysler Corporation V.I.N. system decoding


Fifth digit = engine

A - 170 1-1BBL 6 Cylinder "G" engine


B - 225 1-1BBL 6 Cylinder "RG" engine

C - Special Order 6 Cylinder engine

D - 273 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine

F - 318 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine

G - 383 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "B" engine

H - 383 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "B" engine (High Performance)

J - 426 2-4BBL 8 Cylinder "RB" engine (Hemi)

K - 440 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "RB" engine

L - 440 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "RB" engine (High Performance)

M - Special Order 8 Cylinder engine

P - 340 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine (High Performance)

 

[detmatt]

hey there, I'm confused. when i check the following website I get two version of the 383 for 1969, one a hi-po.

1966 to 1974 Chrysler Corporation V.I.N. system decoding


Fifth digit = engine

A - 170 1-1BBL 6 Cylinder "G" engine


B - 225 1-1BBL 6 Cylinder "RG" engine

C - Special Order 6 Cylinder engine

D - 273 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine

F - 318 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine

G - 383 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "B" engine

H - 383 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "B" engine (High Performance)

J - 426 2-4BBL 8 Cylinder "RB" engine (Hemi)

K - 440 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "RB" engine

L - 440 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "RB" engine (High Performance)

M - Special Order 8 Cylinder engine

P - 340 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine (High Performance)

That's correct.

 

[Slantsix]

Really? Don't want to offend, but is it the factory motor?

Yup all original. Well maybe spark plug,wires etc been changed. But otherwise its original. Engine blew somewhere -89-90 and been sitting on desert since.

 

[saforwardlook]

Not if it's an HP 383. Problem is, in '69 all 383s were simply a "G" in the VIN as this one is. I like in '70 where they made a distinction between L and N.

This car is sweet!

Where do you get your information? You post your information as facts when it is really speculation.

Chrysler always distinguishes a 2 bbl from a 4 bbl engine with different codes at least from 1969 and forward and probably in the earlier years as well (not sure) and as noted above the proper code for a 4 bbl is H in 1969. And I owned a 1969 Newport convertible a few years ago before selling it to Finland, and it was a 4 bbl painted Chrysler blue from the factory - no doubt about it. In a B body like a 1969 Road Runner, the engine would have been orange, but not in a Chrysler. And the engine code for a 2 bbl is E61 whereas a 4 bbl is E63. This Newport convertible started life as a 383-2 bbl., G code.

 

[Snotty]

mine is a 69 383 2bbl with a/c and it is turquoise. and im fairly sure it's original lol

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Yes, the blue was fine on a 2bbl motor. The question was the one that is orange.

 

[Snotty]

Where do you get your information? You post your information as facts when it is really speculation.

Chrysler always distinguishes a 2 bbl from a 4 bbl engine with different codes at least from 1969 and forward and probably in the earlier years as well (not sure) and as noted above the proper code for a 4 bbl is H in 1969. And I owned a 1969 Newport convertible a few years ago before selling it to Finland, and it was a 4 bbl painted Chrysler blue from the factory - no doubt about it. In a B body like a 1969 Road Runner, the engine would have been orange, but not in a Chrysler. And the engine code for a 2 bbl is E61 whereas a 4 bbl is E63. This Newport convertible started life as a 383-2 bbl., G code.

I, like anyone else, can be wrong. Where I got that information, not a speculation, incorrect as it is, was from a Chrysler Engine Rebuilding book published close to twenty years ago. I see that his comment about the "G" code being universal was incorrect, but that was where I read it. I don't recall making any comments about the Fender Tag engine codes, so I don't know why you bothered to make those points.

 

[bluefury361]

I think the blacked out pinch weld was a mandated thing, like the core support. But was often skipped during assembly, as was the black out core support, on a high percentage of vehicles.
The Admiral had black out pinch welds and core support originally. Jazabelle came with black out pinch welds and body color core support.
The black out on the pinch weld and cowl was not orgonasol, but a 70% black matte.
Orgonasol was reserved for performance hood and lower body applications.

 

[bluefury361]

The purpose of the black out pinch weld was strickly cosmetic. It was thought that it gave the vehicle a lower profile.
It came from Henry Ford in the early 60's, who insisted all Ford vehicles got the treatment.