For Sale '77 Newport with claimed 21k miles for $9.5k in TN

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1977 Chrysler Newport

S'posing it's true, is 21k miles a good thing? Or meaning that all that sitting has made for a plethora of potential dried out seals n' such? (Be kind, I really don't know).

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It depends how it was stored. Personally, I prefer low mileage cars.

Our 77 New Yorker came to us with 40k original miles. In the 4 years that we've had it, I've had to replace the power brake booster and the thermoquad, but the latter was my fault. The 440 has dripped oil in the area of the rear main seal for 4 years, but I don't drive it every day, and it never needs oil. That's it. I have a lot fewer issues with this car than with 2 previous formals that had a lot more miles.

Similarly, we also have a 1996 Chevy S10 w/ 18k original miles. In 1 year, the only thing I've replaced on it, was a squeaky serpentine belt. My wife's 1988 S10 4x4 has 50k original miles. I've had to fix minor things on that one, like the stereo and both plastic oil pressure sending units. The 4x4 initially didn't work, due to lack of use, so that required 1 new hose, a plastic vacuum diverter valve and lube. All three cars run, look and smell like new. I also had a 76 Buick w/ 14k original miles. That 350 also had a minor drip from the rear main seal area, but again, I never needed to add oil.

If the vehicle was stored outside, forget it. If it was stored in a climate-controlled garage, it's one of the few, and definitely worth haggling over. You can't tell from pictures. At any rate, I personally think that $9,500 is too high.
 
We have a problem.. How big? We don't know until the new owner pulls the interior to get at the vinyl roof trim fasteners and peel back the vinyl. Awful lot of work for a 95-hundred dollar, low option, 4 dr. Sdn. Formal.
Although it has manual a.c.

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There is major rust under that vinyl.

What my NYB looked like......

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The vinyl in front by the windshield probably looks like this under the vinyl....

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I would suspect the lower rear quarters have issues too.
 
Mine had 78k miles when i got it, had to replace the valve stem seals, valve cover gaskets, all vacuum hoses, oil pump gaskets/o-rings, and the tranny leaked like a sieve and started to fail because of old o-rings and seals. Basically all rubber parts except for those on the body.
I would expect to replace all these parts on a car of this age regardless of mileage. Just so I know it's right.
 
Mine had 78k miles when i got it, had to replace the valve stem seals, valve cover gaskets, all vacuum hoses, oil pump gaskets/o-rings, and the tranny leaked like a sieve and started to fail because of old o-rings and seals. Basically all rubber parts except for those on the body.
I would expect to replace all these parts on a car of this age regardless of mileage. Just so I know it's right.
Mine had 72k one little old lady miles.
I can't think of one damn thing that didn't have to be replaced.
 
Mine had 72k one little old lady miles.
I can't think of one damn thing that didn't have to be replaced.

My past experience with Formals when they were a few years old back in the day was that they were generally "done" by about 50K miles, regardless of age, needing everything fixed that should have been able to go 75-100K miles in the past with few issues. It was like Chrysler was cheapening everything on the car, including mechanical parts, as they slid into bankruptcy. I figured they just told their suppliers of many years they were only going to pay so much for a part, so take it or leave it. And the suppliers obliged, but Chrysler didn't win in the long run. While I am not fond of Formal styling (too much like "old men's cars - too boxy and faux elegance IMO), the mechanical aspects were a sad decline. Just a few years after these models were sold, dealers were flooded with problem cars. Also the lean burn years were not good to them either. I saw it all first hand. Very sad. I will never own one.

It was also a time when managers were promoted based primarily on how much money the department saved, rather than how good the car was or the inspiration of the design or technology progress. So it led to management that was top heavy with accountants and few real engineers or real "car guys". By not having to put catalysts on their cars and using lean burn technology instead, I was watching as one manager did well in his progression, but the lean burn didn't work and they still had to use catalysts anyway, so they suffered tremendously in just that area alone while the prior manager got promoted. GM was going in the same direction (they were smart enough still though to develop the catalyst, not try to get by without it), but not so quickly. GM ended up with the most arrogant, cluless leaders by the late 80s as any automaker due to the practice. Greed never does anyone any good in the long run.
 
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The other 2 formals I owned, had issues similar to yours, one had 83k miles, and the other was 77k miles. The 96 S10 we have now, still has the original tires, and they don't have a single crack on them. I really didn't need that truck, but couldn't pass it up for $3,700. It and the Chrysler were stored in climate controlled garages. I think that makes a significant difference.
 
I agree that if a Formal was stored in a climate controlled environment that they survived with little deterioration. Except for the 78 wiper cam. Lol.

I did notice that the Formal's in the far western United States fared the best. And still do.
 
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