Are all floors the same?

[TomKinTexas]

Hello, I'm needing to replace the whole floor pan on my 69 Newport convertible. So, of course, that means I'm looking for a donor car because no one sells a new pan. I've been told by one guy that I don't need to narrow my search to just 2-door cars. He says that I can use a floor pan (forward of the main cross-member under the rear seat) out of either a 2-door or 4-door donor car. He says that post-WWII all makes made up the difference in the 2 and 4 door versions in the rear seat area and the forward portions are all the same. Is this true? Are all floor pans the same? Thanks

 

[Big_John]

From what I understand, the floors are pretty much the same. The rear floor has allowance for when it's used in a 2 door.

Looks like you fell into the C2C trap. Sorry....

The rear pans look like they are reversed and on the wrong sides if that helps you at all.

 

[TomKinTexas]

I blame myself. I should have known not to buy anything until I did the disassembly. Bought the C2C panels just from looking at the floors from under the car. When removing the interior I cranked on the seatbelt anchor bolt for the driver's side and the whole anchor crumbled and came out. Hadn't counted on that. Thanks for the reply.

 

[57fury440]

If it was my car, I would want to replace the floor pans too. It looks like a nice car. The floors actually are not as bad as a lot of converts I've seen. It is too bad that no one makes better repair panels. My 57 has good floor pans but over the years I've had several that did not. The panels they sold for 57/58 Plymouths were a joke. I ended up using metal I cut from old panels to patch them the best I could as they were just drivers, and I was not worried about originality.

 

[Samplingman]

Looks like a great project, welcome to the forum. I'm using the pans from a '73 New Yorker 2-door to fix a 1970 Chrysler 300. Other than an odd bead roll here and there, the dimensions are the same from '69-'73, 2 or 4 door, the trunk pan will work too.

 

[TomKinTexas]

I'm not worried about originality either. I'm just looking for the easiest way to get the floor to where I don't have to warn people about where to put their feet. But looking for a just a donor car will be a lot easier if I can include sedans and wagons.

 

[TomKinTexas]

Looks like a great project, welcome to the forum. I'm using the pans from a '73 New Yorker 2-door to fix a 1970 Chrysler 300. Other than an odd bead roll here and there, the dimensions are the same from '69-'73, 2 or 4 door, the trunk pan will work too.

Thanks. This is the confirmation I need.

 

[CBODY67]

What you WILL need is to consider the wheelbase. Chrysler non-wagons were the same. Dodges were 122 for non-wagons. Plymouths were 119 or 120" for non-wagons. All C-body wagons were 122" wheelbase, as were the C-body Dodges in those model years. Imperial Fuselage Cars were 127, but with the same "cabin" on them, as the additional wheelbase was in the front stubframe in front of the cowl.

It has always seemed that the front floor sections were the same, with some being different due to mountings for console shifters and consoles. With the difference in wheelbase being made up in the rear floorpan section, as the rear legroom increased with each increase in wheelbase.

The rear section of wagons will be unique due to their rear load floor area AND rear compartment (under the floor) or rear seat on 9-Passenger models. Behind the rear axle.

There might be some gussets, braces, and reinforcements in the convertible floorpans that might not be in the "closed car" items, as additions to them? Something to be aware of the possibilities of.

On an assy line, it would make sense that all floorpans in a given wheelbase would be the same. Plus the rocker panels, as everything else on the car would be added to them.

Just some thoughts and observations,
CBODY67

 

[TomKinTexas]

What you WILL need is to consider the wheelbase. Chrysler non-wagons were the same. Dodges were 122 for non-wagons. Plymouths were 119 or 120" for non-wagons. All C-body wagons were 122" wheelbase, as were the C-body Dodges in those model years. Imperial Fuselage Cars were 127, but with the same "cabin" on them, as the additional wheelbase was in the front stubframe in front of the cowl.

It has always seemed that the front floor sections were the same, with some being different due to mountings for console shifters and consoles. With the difference in wheelbase being made up in the rear floorpan section, as the rear legroom increased with each increase in wheelbase.

There might be some gussets, braces, and reinforcements in the convertible floorpans that might not be in the "closed car" items, as additions to them? Something to be aware of the possibilities of.

On an assy line, it would make sense that all floorpans in a given wheelbase would be the same. Plus the rocker panels, as everything else on the car would be added to them.

Nice car you have!

Just some thoughts and observations,
CBODY667

Really appreciate this. Thanks for the help.

 

[1970cat]

i put floor pans from a 69 newport 2dr in my 69 fury convertible. the only difference was the the rear footwell area in the convertible was shorter.

 

[carguy300]

Welcome from east texas, car looks really nice. You came to the right place for help and advice and knowledge! Cant wait to see the end results.

 

[MrMoparCHP]

The only difference in floor panels is the car line (in 69), this is made up in the rear foot well filler panel.

Wheelbase
124 - Chrysler
122 - Dodge
120 - Plymouth

122 - Wagons (all)


Alan

 

[TomKinTexas]

Really appreciate all the help, guys. This is what I needed. So, now that I know what I'm looking for...anybody got a good floor pan? Preferably from a Chrysler? But even if it's a shorter one from a Dodge, Plymouth or a wagon? Anyone, anyone...Bueler?