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the problem with ebay is it makes it harder for the real interested people, too.
Those who are really interested buying don't want to bid against low feedback idiots who finally are not willing to pay and just drive the price up

Carsten
 
the problem with ebay is it makes it harder for the real interested people, too.
Those who are really interested buying don't want to bid against low feedback idiots who finally are not willing to pay and just drive the price up

Carsten

I do my best to "police" that crap.

I got the bid filters set at the most restrictive levels, use strong language to warn the deadbeats and tirekickers to discourage them from even bidding at all, routinely canceling bids from <5 feedback guys if they dont contact me..hell Ebay wrote me a couple years back asking me why I was canceling so many bids. I had a series of lengthy but ultimately unproductive "talks" with them about that.

As a Ebay buyer, I know what I wanna pay going in, I aint seduced by the item itself or what other bidders, "real or fake", think about an item as evidenced by their "bids". If I win I'm cool, if I dont win I'm still cool.

But in any "open" forum like Ebay, you get "participants" across the quality spectrum from serious to sh*tty to the downright frauds. Comes with the territory as they say so you know that going in whether buying or selling.

Its a double edged sword tho...27 of my cars left the country (crossing oceans) over the past 6 years. Those people would not have been so easily reached in the old days, let alone people down the street or across this county. Then every now and then you get a deadbeat screwing it all up for everybody.

Anyway, we'll see what happens.
 
when I am interested in a car on ebay I usually contact the seller, request all the info I need and make them an offer on the phone outside of ebay. Of course I offer to make a big down payment by paypal immidiatly so they know I am serious about it. I just don't like bidding against (unreal) people/fakers

Carsten
 
when I am interested in a car on ebay I usually contact the seller, request all the info I need and make them an offer on the phone outside of ebay. Of course I offer to make a big down payment by paypal immidiatly so they know I am serious about it. I just don't like bidding against (unreal) people/fakers

Carsten

Carsten that approach sure cuts through the clutter and works great when you and seller see the eye-to-eye on the price, terms, etc. Seems you also handle business the right way when a deal finally comes together.

I guess I operate sorta the same way when buying ..I know what the thing is worth to me while trying to be fair with seller... but I don't care whether auction ends on/off Ebay as its up the seller what they wanna do after we agree on the conditions of the deal.

Bon weekend.

Ray
 
For over a hundred years, all of mankind has attempted the best way possible to buy a/o sell a vehicle.
A hundred years and still nobody has come up with a good way.
There will never be a good way. Just a bazillion variations of the old ways. Damn. What is it about vehicles that brings out the worst in us?

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For over a hundred years, all of mankind has attempted the best way possible to buy a/o sell a vehicle.
A hundred years and still nobody has come up with a good way.
There will never be a good way. Just a bazillion variations of the old ways. Damn. What is it about vehicles that brings out the worst in us?

People getting PhD's all over the world wrestlin' with that question brother.

At the risk of being a "nerd" again, its two words: "information asymmetry" ..a well studied economic and social science phenomenon that manifests itself everywhere in our daily lives.

The "fitty-cent" translation of that term is when somebody has, or is perceived by another person to have, better information about a potential deal, that somebody will in fact use their superior information against the one who doesn't have it in order to further their own interests.

Not all car deals turn out bad (and not all people are bad either), but we fear that they might be. So its like we are sure somebody is gonna get "whacked" in the deal, and we don't want it to be us, but we know full well it might turn out to be us, creating more anxiety and/or rancor around the deal.

Buying/selllng cars (new or used) are transactions fraught with mistrust/misunderstanding between the parties and always have been. Next to homes, they are the biggest purchases most of us make, and we all got stories of our own and others who got screwed over in a car deal, or a car repair deal.

Add to all that, they are machines with 30,000 parts so lot can go wrong and a lot of ways to conceal defects, most are not really good investments per se but they are necessities (even for us hobbyists) of modern life, many have incomplete histories (especially used cars)...on and on with the aspects of buying/selling them where we wish we had more information if we need to defend ourselves in a transaction.

Heck, before cars it was horses. Different transportation "technology" obviously, and relatively much simpler versus a car to determine its true condition, but if "Old Paint" came up lame a day after you bought him, and then your field didnt get plowed putting your livelihood at risk, you'd probably be more than a little pissed off at the guy who sold it to you probably knowing it was injured, and pissed at yourself for falling for the smooth sales pitch from the shyster in the first place.

All my ranting is to say I'm kinda with ya and think for a whole lot of reasons there will never be a truly "painless" way to buy/sell cars. As the technology for transacting increases the transparency of deals, the risk of bad outcomes goes down...but we still got a ways to go.
 
All my ranting is to say I'm kinda with ya and think for a whole lot of reasons there will never be a truly "painless" way to buy/sell cars. As the technology for transacting increases the transparency of deals, the risk of bad outcomes goes down...but we still got a ways to go.

the only point where I do have a "small" disagree.
If you buy from a very knowledgeable seller whom trust than it is easy.

I just did it this way. Saw a car i liked, didn't look that intensivly (checked its condition) and just asked the seller about its condition and what he would like to get for it. I was able to live with the price and just paid happily even though I didn't even hear the engine run.

Of course the group of people you trust that far is very very small.

Carsten
 
the only point where I do have a "small" disagree.
If you buy from a very knowledgeable seller whom trust than it is easy.

I just did it this way. Saw a car i liked, didn't look that intensivly (checked its condition) and just asked the seller about its condition and what he would like to get for it. I was able to live with the price and just paid happily even though I didn't even hear the engine run.

Of course the group of people you trust that far is very very small.

Carsten

No argument from me Carsten on that point.

Trust is a powerful and beautiful thing..hard to earn, easy to lose. In an "arms-length" kinda world where its mostly absent by necessity ("human nature" makes it harder to trust people you dont know), it can go a long way to smooth out the "rough edges" of deal-making. Trust leads to more reliable information sharing which in turn leads to better decisions for everybody involved.

Thanks.

Ray
 
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