Carlisle 2021

Big_John said:
I know the car well. It belonged to the previous owner of my 300 and I have a lot of "seat time", driving and riding in it. He (Bruce) sold it to the present owner when he bought my 300.

There is a 383 under the hood, although (IIRC) the original motor is long gone. The owner lives on Long Island. The car is actually very rust free and Bruce has always regretted selling it.

A couple months ago, I ran into a guy that owned it before Bruce and had owned it since he was in high school. I hadn't seen him in quite a few years. He had been given the car by his father, who owned a body shop, as a "project". The car was still fairly new, but had been wrecked. That owner (Tony) fixed it and had it for a while. I don't know the history between Bruce and Tony though. I also didn't know Tony when he had the car.

The present owner came up to me on Saturday and thought I was Bruce. (...) The present owner added the stripes and other emblems not original to the car.

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This was when Carlisle did the "burnout contest". This pic was in one of the Mopar magazines.

Bruce at the wheel with @march 's wife in the passenger seat. Note Purple Heart NY plate. Bruce was wounded in Viet Nam.

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Is this the same black/blue 1970 Plymouth Fury 'vert back in 2003? The mirror is different but the lower quarter has the exact same (incorrect) curvature:

 
ayilar said:
Is this the same black/blue 1970 Plymouth Fury 'vert back in 2003? The mirror is different but the lower quarter has the exact same (incorrect) curvature:

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Yes, it is.

The story on that car is long.

In the 70's, the car had been crashed and possibly written off as totaled. The car was bought by a body shop owner for his son, with it being an opportunity to learn some repair and use as his own car.

He fixed the car, but didn't get the quarter right. Bruce bought the car (it may have changed hands a couple times) and drove it "as is" for a while concentrating on doing mechanical repair etc. He eventually found a good replacement quarter and it was replaced. IIRC, Bruce painted the car, but may have had the quarter replaced by a pro.

I saw the body man that worked on/owned the car a few months ago. He owns the shop now, basically retired to having an office in the back while the place is run by family. He always asks about the car!
 
Big_John said:
There is a place, I guess, for these cars. The local Mopar show has gotten so they are just about braking them down to colors for individual classes (only slightly exaggerating) and from what I've heard, that is because a lot of the owners are very vocal and want a better chance to win a trophy.

I don't know as that is right... but I'm also understanding that when I started showing my '69 A12 car in 1983, it was like showing a 2006 car now.... So I can't be too big of a hypocrite.

I do get sick of seeing the metrics at cruise nights, and some owners seem to be interchangeable with the stereotype Corvette owner that everyone here seems to hate. Just a gold chain away... LOL. Many are young guys, but I see a lot of guys my age too... Some can't doing any wrenching so they drive something that the dealer can fix and/or are so used to A/C and heated seats that they won't drive old cars anymore.
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Old post, but so true...

So many of the metric crowd seems to be the same crowd who thought PT Cruiser's were classics in the making... but worse. I really get amazed that some of them think they're doing something by not driving them... with the electronics of today, wait and see how many are operational in 40 years. As to he color classes... I think many only are involved for some kind of recognition. I recently saw as much attention being paid to a metric with some goofy looking window louvers as a pretty nice 300F at Ocala... but I wasn't there on show day to see if they both had model car staged under the hood... I have my suspicions.

In 1983, he had been nothing produced for over a decade that was really all that much like an A12... NOT THE SAME AT ALL. Dark years as the spectators went back to their sub 100hp DD's.

I do kinda get the "can't wrench" crowd driving newer stuff... Hell, I'm guilty of showing up in "something fully disposable" myself... but I go to enjoy myself, not sit behind my car (I do that at home if/when the urge strikes) :)
 
how many of us are probably around in 40 years?
I do not worry about anything being in 40 years

Carsten
 
1966newport said:
not when gas cars will not be produced after 2035
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I don't believe it. That's a bunch of talk from a bunch of bullshitters. Cars aren't going away. Gas isn't going away either.
If there was something that worked better, we would be using it as a planet.
Current electricity storage does not cut it.
2035 my ***. These people mess up the entire economy in one year and I"m supposed to think that they have enough work ethic to actually find a better solution to gasoline in 15 years. yeah right.
All they want are my tax's and my rights.
 
cuda hunter said:
I don't believe it. That's a bunch of talk from a bunch of bullshitters. Cars aren't going away. Gas isn't going away either.
If there was something that worked better, we would be using it as a planet.
Current electricity storage does not cut it.
2035 my ***. These people mess up the entire economy in one year and I"m supposed to think that they have enough work ethic to actually find a better solution to gasoline in 15 years. yeah right.
All they want are my tax's and my rights.
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Plus! Between the Petroleum, Auto industry and lawmakers, they’re ALL In bed together AND! making TONS of money doing it..
 
1978 NYB said:
Do you want to trade???

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no Bob.
I hope you are doing well and I hopefully see you next year in Carlisle.
But me being 50 I am sure I won't be around on the planet in 40 years.

Therefore I abuse my body too much

Carsten
 
From what I’ve been seeing, dealers with plug-ins can’t move them off the lot. If they were such a big hit, they’d be producing them like hot cakes. Electrics are still the toys of the rich. Make a $20k SUV with a 300 mile range and I’d consider it, but the cost to produce won’t allow it.
 
Samplingman said:
From what I’ve been seeing, dealers with plug-ins can’t move them off the lot. If they were such a big hit, they’d be producing them like hot cakes
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That's exactly what the MN auto dealers president said. They want ten times the supply of EV's, as there is demand, in three years.
 
LocuMob said:
That's exactly what the MN auto dealers president said. They want ten times the supply of EV's, as there is demand, in three years.
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Ever wonder about this...?
The first good cold snap, and the parts stores start running out of batteries, the shops run out of parking spaces and the tow truck drivers get no sleep.
 
cantflip said:
Ever wonder about this...?
The first good cold snap, and the parts stores start running out of batteries, the shops run out of parking spaces and the tow truck drivers get no sleep.
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There would have to be a lot more ev's on the road.
 
cantflip said:
Ever wonder about this...?
The first good cold snap, and the parts stores start running out of batteries,
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Interesting batteries. Something tells me no one has these batteries in stock.

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@Joeychgo Any reason for keeping the 2021 Carlilse thread a sticky thread?
I suggest making the 6th Annual C Body Show and the 2022 Carlisle threads sticky's.
 
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