Doing a console addition to my car that never had one. Those are helpful and at one time I thought I needed to position my mounting brackets in the factory locations. But now I decided that isn't as important as the general front to back and left to right orientation of the entire console. So if you have a finished installed console I'm just wondering how far back it is front the heater duct. Yes the aftermarket shifter I have already will dictate somewhat my location but I want to know where a stock console would be anyway. My shifter was added (PO) when it had bench seats so it might be further forward that what it would be if it had buckets.