yes , tons of funds with no return . can't say there is any money in my venture . happy four speed car guys is its own reword . i know i'm going to be banging them off . just needs a o/d to be better . maybe i'll look into a tall stock to use a gv from a 727 on it . same output shaft size . if there where enough of us a833 tranny guys wanting that it could break even on costs , even . lol . but i'm going to launch a new company with these parts '' RoadToysUnlimited'' RTU ! what do you think ? i have either items inline for its product line as well , racy stuff for the vintage car guys .