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3175375
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Anti-ship B-25 (USMC PBJ). Look at that 75mm cannon!
3175375
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oh mooma! Frightening weapon on the battlefied.
sources: North American B-25 Mitchell - Wikipedia. 75 mm gun M2–M6 - Wikipedia
The 75MM cannon is a bit more visible, lower right. This one asserted to be an 75mm"'M-5" model. The other four are part of the 50 cal guns on a Mitchell. Bonus. A bit of nose art
"A lightweight version of the M3 with a lighter thin-walled barrel and a different recoil mechanism of the concentric hydrospring type (similar to the modern M256 smoothbore gun) that was used in the Douglas A-26 Invader and the North American B-25H Mitchell bombers.
It uses the same ammunition and has the same ballistics as the M3."
B-25 Mitchell (not a PBJ)
This one is PBJ-1H. source: Our Aircraft: The PBJ-1 Mitchell
Tangent.
These 75mm "anti-tank" guns originated as field weapons. I am sure to mount one on a Mitchell or any other plane some compromises that to be made, but they were still devastating.
Anyway, here is 7 min. video on a refurbished German field 75mm gun. Interesting walkthrough and even a demo firing.
I saw a WWII documentary on Sherman tanks, and the effect (depending on the shell used) ON the tank from a direct hit from a German 75mm. Shernans had a crew of five.
definitely NOT for breakfast, or ANY other discussion. War is HELL in that regard.
These 75mm "anti-tank" guns originated as field weapons. I am sure to mount one on a Mitchell or any other plane some compromises that to be made, but they were still devastating.
Anyway, here is 7 min. video on a refurbished German field 75mm gun. Interesting walkthrough and even a demo firing.
I saw a WWII documentary on Sherman tanks, and the effect (depending on the shell used) ON the tank from a direct hit from a German 75mm. Shernans had a crew of five.
definitely NOT for breakfast, or ANY other discussion. War is HELL in that regard.
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It took me the whole weekend, of an on watching, to what this hour-long video. Worth it for tank-o-philes and any of us who have restored old vehicles.
This outfit restores "heavy metal" of all types. This video documents the resoration of a German Tiger_I tank. I excerpted stills from the LONG video to get the gist of things.
This tank was a "rust buclet" in pieces.
Armor 2 to 5 inches thick that had to be re-assembled and repaired. FIVE inches thick, it had to be CUT to weaken it SO it could be straightened ("bumped out"), THEN welded together.
No propulsion yet .. they were putting it back together to be made ready to get running again.
Obviously, there may only be a handful of - https://www.ausarmour.com/shops in Queensland, Australia - that could do THIS kinda work.
Again, the vid is LONG, but interesting, and the initial results STUNNING..
video stills. Turret was done first, then they tackled the rest.
This outfit restores "heavy metal" of all types. This video documents the resoration of a German Tiger_I tank. I excerpted stills from the LONG video to get the gist of things.
This tank was a "rust buclet" in pieces.
Armor 2 to 5 inches thick that had to be re-assembled and repaired. FIVE inches thick, it had to be CUT to weaken it SO it could be straightened ("bumped out"), THEN welded together.
No propulsion yet .. they were putting it back together to be made ready to get running again.
Obviously, there may only be a handful of - https://www.ausarmour.com/shops in Queensland, Australia - that could do THIS kinda work.
Again, the vid is LONG, but interesting, and the initial results STUNNING..
video stills. Turret was done first, then they tackled the rest.
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patrick66
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My brother and I went on the Norwegian Bliss last May to Alaska (from Seattle). We had a great time! Seven days. Balcony room. I'd like to do another cruise, this time on the Carribean somewhere.
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3175375
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I believe that tank was used in the movie ‘Fury’
The "problem" with the Tiger was two-fold. The front armor was flat, not tilted like the Panther. It was susceptible to heavy gun fire from straight on, and one of the reasons is slowly vanished from the battlefield. The Sherman Firefly with the British 17 pounder gun was a real problem for the tank. (Previous Shermans were of little effect except from the rear.)
The second problem was the Maybach engine. It was good, but it was the same version that powered the Panzer IV, a smaller and lighter vehicle. It made the Tiger very slow, enabling the Shermans to get behind it and knock it out. It was good for the Allies that so many of those ugly, tall things were made!
At the time Fury was made, that Tiger was the only operational one in the world, and was form the Bovington Museum in England. If this is that same tank, then yes, it was.
This thread started with the movie. The story of their "props" isn't known to me.
My first thought, IF i owned a running Tiger, let alone the only one in the world, I wouldn't let the Hollywood types get anywhere near it (maybe the museum did it like you said).
That crowd used to call on me trying to get my cop cars for movies .. by the time I finished "redlining" their consignments contracts, they stopped calling me.. One or two calls a year from indie production companies -- nothing from the major studios for YEARS.
Anyway, at 57:30 in the video there is a mention and a shot of something they said WAS used in Fury. Other than paint job, it wasn't shown long enough for me to discern the differences to the REAL one they built.
Alleged to be the Fury movie Tiger,
ASIDE .. my favorite Tiger in movies.
Saw it at the movies in 1970 -- as a first run -- with another war movie called "Tobruk". Double feature. Five minute vid if ya got time to kill.
My first thought, IF i owned a running Tiger, let alone the only one in the world, I wouldn't let the Hollywood types get anywhere near it (maybe the museum did it like you said).
That crowd used to call on me trying to get my cop cars for movies .. by the time I finished "redlining" their consignments contracts, they stopped calling me.
. One or two calls a year from indie production companies -- nothing from the major studios for YEARS.Anyway, at 57:30 in the video there is a mention and a shot of something they said WAS used in Fury. Other than paint job, it wasn't shown long enough for me to discern the differences to the REAL one they built.
Alleged to be the Fury movie Tiger,
ASIDE .. my favorite Tiger in movies.
Saw it at the movies in 1970 -- as a first run -- with another war movie called "Tobruk". Double feature. Five minute vid if ya got time to kill.
Maybach, HL 230, the Tiger 1 powerplant. V12, gas, 690 HP. I am sure it was stout piece, but Tiger 1 weighed 65 tons
source: Maybach HL230 - Wikipedia
230 running, four mins.
source: Maybach HL230 - Wikipedia
Old Mike
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This thread started with the movie. The story of their "props" isn't known to me.
My first thought, IF i owned a running Tiger, let alone the only one in the world, I wouldn't let the Hollywood types get anywhere near it (maybe the museum did it like you said).
That crowd used to call on me trying to get my cop cars for movies .. by the time I finished "redlining" their consignments contracts, they stopped calling me.
Anyway, at 57:30 in the video there is a mention and a shot of something they said WAS used in Fury. Other than paint job, it wasn't shown long enough for me to discern the differences to the REAL one they built.
Alleged to be the Fury movie Tiger,
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ASIDE .. my favorite Tiger in movies.
Saw it at the movies in 1970 -- as a first run -- with another war movie called "Tobruk". Double feature. Five minute vid if ya got time to kill.
If you look up Kelly’s Heroes on IMDb, it says much of the movie was shot in the former Yugoslavia and that the Tigers were actually Yugoslav T-34s modified to look the part. The giveaways are that the treads are too narrow and the drive sprockets are at the rear instead of the front. Otherwise a decent bit of work
This guy does cool vids. M1A2 Abrams. basic design/operation. About 10 mins.
Fans of "how its made" might get a kick outta this.
Kinda interesting .. hot metal working, lathes, agriculture/harvesting machines, food preparation, construction/demolition machines, recyling, etc.
About 60+ (2-3 per minute) vignettes, some processes were not identified though..
Its TOO long at 30 mins for a casual look, so if interested plan time accordingly.
My main take-away thought?
Everything being made surely are consumed/done/needed in USA too. I have only seen/used the finished products .. not be privy to the "sausage-making."
A lot of foreign locations featured .. even my noob factory-floor eyes could spot work practices (no safety glasses, no machine guards, no safety shoes, etc) that would NEVER be allowed in "advanced" countries.
Kinda interesting .. hot metal working, lathes, agriculture/harvesting machines, food preparation, construction/demolition machines, recyling, etc.
About 60+ (2-3 per minute) vignettes, some processes were not identified though..
Its TOO long at 30 mins for a casual look, so if interested plan time accordingly.
My main take-away thought?
Everything being made surely are consumed/done/needed in USA too. I have only seen/used the finished products .. not be privy to the "sausage-making."
A lot of foreign locations featured .. even my noob factory-floor eyes could spot work practices (no safety glasses, no machine guards, no safety shoes, etc) that would NEVER be allowed in "advanced" countries.
This thread started with the movie. The story of their "props" isn't known to me.
My first thought, IF i owned a running Tiger, let alone the only one in the world, I wouldn't let the Hollywood types get anywhere near it (maybe the museum did it like you said).
That crowd used to call on me trying to get my cop cars for movies .. by the time I finished "redlining" their consignments contracts, they stopped calling me.
Anyway, at 57:30 in the video there is a mention and a shot of something they said WAS used in Fury. Other than paint job, it wasn't shown long enough for me to discern the differences to the REAL one they built.
Alleged to be the Fury movie Tiger,
View attachment 643831
ASIDE .. my favorite Tiger in movies.
Saw it at the movies in 1970 -- as a first run -- with another war movie called "Tobruk". Double feature. Five minute vid if ya got time to kill.
Of course, in Kelly's Heroes, like Saving Private Ryan, those Tigers were Russian T-72 tanks.
Not T-34s. Those had Christie suspension, the ones in Heroes did not. Later tanks.
I saw the same IMBD reference calling Kelly's Tigers were mocked up T-34's
First, I dunno - I was in elementary school.
I looked for T-72 references and didn't find any for Kelly's heroes stand-in Tigers. EOD, we probably know they weren't "real" Tigers in KH.
Also, I think T-72's were not SOP until early 70's - too late for Kelly source: T-72 - Wikipedia
below source: IMBD: Kelly's Heroes (1970) - Trivia - IMDb
below: This citation was on Quora (this site uses "Bots" for answers, then sometimes direct to a person): How accurate are the tanks in the film Kelly's Heroes?
Still pic from Kelly's heroes
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