Heavy Metal

Officially in Arizona, and has made her last flight

Cool ... and three things ya don't/won't see everyday still flying.

Obviously the Martin flying boat, and I am pretty sure a P-51 Mustang. Third plane I had to look up.

A PB4Y-2_Privateer (B-24 derivative with several variants), a circa WWII/Korean War era bomber, sporting four "Twin_Wasp" radials. Can't be many of those left that are airworthy.

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Cool ... and three things ya don't/won't see everyday still flying.

Obviously the Martin flying boat, and I am pretty sure a P-51 Mustang. Third plane I had to look up.

A PB4Y-2_Privateer (B-24 derivative with several variants), a circa WWII/Korean War era bomber, sporting four "Twin_Wasp" radials. Can't be many of those left that are airworthy.

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I believe the two aircraft that joined the Mars are from the Chino Air Museum.
 
Canadair CL-52 Stratojet effectively a B-47B on loan to the RCAF to test the Iroquois Engine (The monstrous engine on the rear of this Stratojet's fuselage) for the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow.

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Anybody know?

Was Harrier an overall mission success, bust, or kinda "meh' as it's headed (ing?) out to pasture.



my understand is it was never fast/maneuverable/lethal as top fighters, but certainly way more deployable almost anywhere.

The AV-8A (Hawker Siddley original manufacturer) was dangerously. McDonnell Douglas’ AV-8B was much improved.

However, the overall rating of the jet was probably meh, with a large cool factor.

I remember seeing one bow at the crowd at an air show.
 
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" I remember seeing one bow at the crowd at an air show"
i read it wanted to do that (i.e., pitch down, and/or "porpoise" when hovering) anyway in normal operation. part of its legendary difficulty to control, particularly at low speed/altitude.
 
Due to the extensive engineering required for the new aircraft, the initial order comprised two prototypes of the XB-35, with an additional plan by Northrop to construct two smaller all-wood models known as the Northrop N-9M (M for model). These scaled models served to evaluate performance and stability, essential for the Flying Wing design. Notably, Jack Northrop enlisted the expertise of Theodore von Kármán, a prominent aeronautical designer of the time, on a part-time basis. Von Kármán endorsed Northrop's initial design and spearheaded the tooling for prototype construction, as elaborated in "Goodbye Beautiful Wing" by Terrence O'Neill (citation needed). The N-9Ms doubled as flight trainers, crucial for familiarizing pilots with the unconventional all-wing configuration.

In early 1942, intensive design efforts commenced on the XB-35. Diverging from traditional aircraft, which rely on rudders for lateral control, the Flying Wing design necessitated an innovative solution. Consequently, clamshell-like split flaps, termed "flaperons" (a fusion of flap and aileron), were integrated into the wingtips. Operating in unison with aileron control, these flaperons were manipulated to adjust the aircraft's roll. Additionally, for yaw control, one side's flaperons would open both upward and downward, inducing drag and steering the aircraft. Manipulating both rudder pedals would activate both sets of flaperons simultaneously, allowing for precise adjustment of airspeed or glide angle.

I saw one of the N-9Ms fly at an air show at Point Mugu. I believe that it was from the Chino Air Museum.

Northrop N-9M - Wikipedia

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my daughter, the aerospace engineer, tried to explain to me how flying wings have "yaw" control without a vertical stabilizer (rudder as i have come to understand them).

she grew frustrated with the old man's wooden brain. :poke:

these "flaperons" must be in a exquisitely controlled flight surface "dance" that musta been really hard to design/do pre-computer?
 
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Due to the extensive engineering required for the new aircraft, the initial order comprised two prototypes of the XB-35, with an additional plan by Northrop to construct two smaller all-wood models known as the Northrop N-9M (M for model). These scaled models served to evaluate performance and stability, essential for the Flying Wing design. Notably, Jack Northrop enlisted the expertise of Theodore von Kármán, a prominent aeronautical designer of the time, on a part-time basis. Von Kármán endorsed Northrop's initial design and spearheaded the tooling for prototype construction, as elaborated in "Goodbye Beautiful Wing" by Terrence O'Neill (citation needed). The N-9Ms doubled as flight trainers, crucial for familiarizing pilots with the unconventional all-wing configuration.

In early 1942, intensive design efforts commenced on the XB-35. Diverging from traditional aircraft, which rely on rudders for lateral control, the Flying Wing design necessitated an innovative solution. Consequently, clamshell-like split flaps, termed "flaperons" (a fusion of flap and aileron), were integrated into the wingtips. Operating in unison with aileron control, these flaperons were manipulated to adjust the aircraft's roll. Additionally, for yaw control, one side's flaperons would open both upward and downward, inducing drag and steering the aircraft. Manipulating both rudder pedals would activate both sets of flaperons simultaneously, allowing for precise adjustment of airspeed or glide angle.

I saw one of the N-9Ms fly at an air show at Point Mugu. I believe that it was from the Chino Air Museum.

Northrop N-9M - Wikipedia

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When converting the XB 35 airframes into YB 49s engineers realized that the propellers provided some vertical stabilization. After installing and ducting the jet engines, vertical fins were added.
 
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Similarly, Russian engineers placed “fences” across the upper wing surfaces of their early designs. This kept the airflow from sliding along the sweep back of the wing which aided maneuverability and vertical stability.
 
source: Here’s why the B-2 Spirit strategic bomber doesn’t feature vertical stabilizers - The Aviation Geek Club
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"The B-2 features all these {stealth] capabilities in an airframe without vertical stabilizers. How can it fly without vertical stabilizers?

'Planes don’t require vertical stabilizers,' says Franklin Veaux, an aviation expert, on Quora.

'A vertical stabilizer is a simple, easy way to get yaw control. A vertical stabilizer plus rudder offers a quick, cheap mechanism for yaw authority.

'You don’t need a vertical stabilizer. You can gain yaw authority by using things like control surfaces that give you differential drag on the trailing edges of the wings, or even by using asymmetric thrust.'

But here’s the thing: doing that is hard. It requires constant active control. An aircraft without a vertical stabilizer is not stable without constant adaptive control, that’s why the original Flying Wings (such as the YB-49) crashed.”

Veaux concludes;
''Birds have constant adaptive control. They have a brain and nervous system that allows nonstop fine-tuning, generally through differential drag—they can change the position of their feathers to control yaw.

“It’s only been recently that avionics by means of computer assistance have allowed aircraft (such as the B-2 and the future B-21 Raider) to do the same.'
 
We normally see pictures of the old Boeing 314 Clipper flying boats (first flight: 1938) over oceans or at harbor passenger terminals, and in so many Pan Am advertisements. But every 314's first trip was as a riverboat. Built at Boeing's Plant 1 on the Duwamish River in Seattle, they first had to be towed downriver into Elliot Bay where they could take off.
This particular plane became famous for being the first commercial airliner to fly around the world. The flying boats were known for very long trips, but this journey wasn't intentional: it was forced as a result of the start of WWII in the Pacific.

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The Grob G520T Egret was designed as a long-endurance, high-altitude reconnaissance and surveillance aircraft, with the aim of meeting the requirements of the German Air Force. However, the program was later cancelled following the reassessment of Eastern Europe as a potential threat.

Hughes / Raytheon had one of these at their Van Nuys facility. I worked with one of the pilots. I believe they had a synthetic aperture radar (SAR) installed in it.

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