Hum...check this out

[C Body Bob]

This is the engine in Brad Keselowski's #22 Discount Tire FORD...Look close Dodge fans. When Penske switch from Dodge to Ford I was regularly checking to see if they where going to put their Dodge engines up for sale. Ray Everham did. Heard Penske had 80 R5P7-8 engines. I never saw any come up for sale to the general public. Now I see why. Those Penske Fords run better than the Roush Fords.

 

[commando1]

OK, I'm a total moron on this stuff. What am I looking at?

 

[C Body Bob]

OK, I'm a total moron on this stuff. What am I looking at?

Look at the front of the cylinder head. It is stamped Dodge in the correct font that Dodge used on their heads. Now look at the valve cover. That's a Dodge P7 valve cover that has a Ford logo on it

 

[Mopars & Missiles]

Has Dodge heads on the Ford motor. Maybe a complete Dodge engine with Ford valve covers.

Ok, so they are just disguising the dodge engine with Ford decals.

 

[C Body Bob]

Has Dodge heads on the Ford motor. Maybe a complete Dodge engine with Ford valve covers.

BINGO ! We have a winner.

 

[commando1]

Another point in my favor in why I say stock car racing is boolchit.

Thanks. Now, what's a P7?

 

[Mopars & Missiles]

Wouldn't that piss Ford off and jeopardize their sponsorship?

 

[C Body Bob]

Thanks. Now, what's a P7?

P7 is the lineage of Dodge small block racing/Performance heads over the years. T/A, W2, W5, all fit production blocks P6, P7, P8 fits R5 race blocks. P9 head is a radical canted valve drag race head for the R5 block

 

[The Horvaths]

You'd think that they'd at least take a die grinder to the Dodge logo.

 

[commando1]

Seriously. So I can drop those heads on my 340 Swinger?

 

[C Body Bob]

Wouldn't that piss Ford off and jeopardize their sponsorship?

Yes it would, but I bet it was agreed to up front. I doubt Roush-Yates could supply enough engines at first. They couldn't supply cars as Penske reskined the Dodges that first year.

 

[C Body Bob]

Seriously. So I can drop those heads on my 340 Swinger?

Yes but you might break something. Wear steel toe shoes if do that

 

[C Body Bob]

You'd think that they'd at least take a die grinder to the Dodge logo.

You would think.

 

[C Body Bob]

The guy I got the pic from is friends with Doug Yates of Roush-Yates engines. He says this was just a show/display car. Never raced with the Dodge engine

 

[65sporty]

The guy I got the pic from is friends with Doug Yates of Roush-Yates engines. He says this was just a show/display car. Never raced with the Dodge engine

Still that is pretty funny

 

[LocuMob]

Penske reskined the Dodges that first year

You mean, switch bumpers and stickers? Or was that before they all had the same template for 80% of the car?

 

[Rwc]

That engine is just as much ford as it is dodge. Labels only

 

[C Body Bob]

You mean, switch bumpers and stickers? Or was that before they all had the same template for 80% of the car?

Good point. I guess they switched decals

 

[C Body Bob]

Here is an Ernie Elliot (Bills brother) R5-P7 engine. What's neat about these is that they are cheap to buy used considering they are only 358 cubic inches. Have 800 horse power. 600 pounds of torque & can spin to 8 grand. Parts to freshen or rebuild are super expensive though. They will bolt up to a smallblock 727 with a crank to flywheel adapter. When Everham closed up his shop he had about 20 on Craigslist from $5K-$15K depending on use & condition of it.

 

[Rwc]

It would be christmas morning every time you started it up