I’ve got a little project.....

[78Brougham]

Passenger cars first and only year for park brake on the back of the 727 trans was 1962.

Really?... my '60 Desoto had a drum brake on the back of the trans.

 

[413]

Really?... my '60 Desoto had a drum brake on the back of the trans.

Did your 1960 Desoto come with a 727 from the factory?

We were talking about 727’s. They started in 1962 model year.

Your 1960 came with an A466 cast iron torqueflite and they had drums on the back of the trans also.

 

[cbarge]

That Poly 4bbl intake is rare as hen's teeth.
Nobody makes an aftermarket 4bbl intake for Poly's anymore and late 50's factory cast iron intakes are priced through the solar system.
So,hang on to that intake.

 

[Lowapproach]

Seems like I remember the '65 B engine cars used a unique block?

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My understanding is that the boss is there on all B blocks, but the holes aren’t drilled on all. You need to do it if they are not there.

 

[413]

The boss is NOT there on all B blocks, most do not have it. So you have to look around, not real hard to find. But it may take a while, especially and usually hard to find if you are in a hurry.

 

[Lowapproach]

The boss is NOT there on all B blocks, most do not have it.

Thanks. Went back to my source material and I see that it’s hit or miss which years have them.

 

[78Brougham]

Did your 1960 Desoto come with a 727 from the factory?

We were talking about 727’s. They started in 1962 model year.

Your 1960 came with an A466 cast iron torqueflite and they had drums on the back of the trans also.

Now you're splitting hairs... they were still considered a Torqueflite. I also had a '61 Dodge the same way and a '59 Plymouth with a Powerflite... All had the drum on the back of the trans.

 

[413]

Now you're splitting hairs... they were still considered a Torqueflite. I also had a '61 Dodge the same way and a '59 Plymouth with a Powerflite... All had the drum on the back of the trans.

I’m not splitting hairs at all. The thread is about 727’s, I clearly typed “727 torqueflight” you just skipped over the facts and had to talk about your YOUR iron case trans. But your calling me out and YOU messed it up. No big deal.

Go to the trans shop and tell them you want parts for a torqueflight, they will ask which one you have, 727 904 or cast iron. Any automotive person knows that.

 

[413]

Now you're splitting hairs... they were still considered a Torqueflite. I also had a '61 Dodge the same way and a '59 Plymouth with a Powerflite... All had the drum on the back of the trans.

Are you selling this 727 bellhousing that isn’t?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-1960-1961-Dodge-Plymouth-Chrysler-Torqueflite-727-Automatic-bell-housing/283710175645?

 

[CBODY67]

UPDATE: When I made that initial comment about the parking brake on the '65 C-body cars, I was under the impression that that could be a difference between the '65 and '66 C-body cars, so THAT's why I mentioned it in the first place. I thought I'd seen that our service station guy's '65 Fury IIIs had that older system on it. But it must have been something else I saw it on.

Just looked through the pre-'66 Chrysler parts books at www.jholst.net and confirmed that the last trans-mounted parking brake was on the 1962 Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth full size cars. Which might make the '62 TorqueFlites (first year for the aluminum case, as I recall?) somewhat different from the later models, due to the parking brake/rear housing configuration.

Now, what I also uncovered was the two different types of trans-mounted parking brake mechanisms. AND which one went on which transmission.

For the record, the Plymouth Valiants and siblings had the "modern" parking brake system on them from the start in 1960.

So, my apologies if I got some of y'alls oil pressure elevated. But it got y'all to thinking, which can be a learning experience for us all.

Happy Holidays,
CBODY67

 

[413]

Now you're splitting hairs... they were still considered a Torqueflite. I also had a '61 Dodge the same way and a '59 Plymouth with a Powerflite... All had the drum on the back of the trans.

Like a hemi, there were several different ones, and then more from this first generation dodge, Chrysler Desoto, are all different, but all called a hemi.

 

[shooter65]

Back to the OP's car, very nice. I certainly understand your desire for the 383 but personally, I would make sure the poly gets back in the car but I'm a huge fan of restoration, especially when you have family history and numbers matching.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Nobody makes an aftermarket 4bbl intake

They make a aluminum, beautiful piece. Wind tunnel of wind jammer you can get it through Chrysler Power magazine. Little pricey

 

[cbarge]

They make a aluminum, beautiful piece. Wind tunnel of wind jammer you can get it through Chrysler Power magazine. Little pricey

So pricey that I did not know that,LOL!!
Supply and demand I guess. Especially since the last Poly built was 53 years ago (in Canada 52 years,maybe longer in truck applications)
The major/popular aftermarket companies were whom I was referring to. Cheers

 

[70bigblockdodge]

The major/popular aftermarket companies were whom I was referring to. Cheers

They are on to $500+ LS intake manifolds.

 

[Ripinator]

My advice for what its worth, is to keep the poly for now. Its a running car. Sort out all the other mechanical issues, brakes, steering, exhaust, trans, lights etc. Chip away at it. That way the kids can drive it if they're of age, and build some excitement behind it. It would also be a good idea to change the brakes to a dual master cylinder, maybe even power, then work on the engine upgrade.

That will be a lot of motor in that car to be stopping with a singe master, if that things fails... you're or your kids could be toast.
Good Luck, it looks like it has good bones for a nice family project.

Hey! I agree with Kenny here. That Poly is pretty neat, and you can do a lot with it as regards higher performance. I don't think the 383 would provide enough additional performance to make the the swap worth the hassle. After yer done warming up the Poly, I think you would be pretty happy with it.

 

[cbarge]

Hey! I agree with Kenny here. That Poly is pretty neat, and you can do a lot with it as regards higher performance. I don't think the 383 would provide enough additional performance to make the the swap worth the hassle. After yer done warming up the Poly, I think you would be pretty happy with it.

The Poly is underrated and often overlooked.
Very reliable,good torque band and better MPG than a big block.
I would keep the Poly and when you open the hood you can explain that you have a "Semi Hemi" LOL!!
After 3 generation of engines after the Poly,kids today will wonder what a Poly is,LOL!!

 

[Lowapproach]

Back to the OP's car, very nice. I certainly understand your desire for the 383 but personally, I would make sure the poly gets back in the car but I'm a huge fan of restoration, especially when you have family history and numbers matching.

I won’t get rid of the 318 and will continue to drive it. A rebuild will occur at some point, in the near term I plan on putting a dual exhaust on it. As far as the 383, I go back and forth on it depending on the day.

 

[300Classy]

Just a heads up the 65 sub frame is very picky with modern transmissions other than 65 and old and is not linkage

 

['66 Fury I]

great to see another 4-door!! My '66 Fury I is 4-door, 3-0n-the -tree and I often hear that "You can't have a manual trans without a stick shift!" I wish i had ehe 318 poly in mine (it was long gone when I got the car), but tha LA 318 works well with a Thermoquad and mild cam. I split the brake system using a dual cylinder from a '69. Works great. I'm a fan of "Old School" and find that drum brakes are more than adeguate. I also use silicone brake fluid.
Enjoy your project! Looks GREAT!! '66 Fury I