I'll try this again.....

[butchr66]

Let's say you bought you're first car....1965 Fury with a poly 318. You live on a desert island with no tools or people or internet to hel. Except you have a timing light and no engine knowledge like degreeing cams, offset keyways or the like......

Now....a little bird tells you to check timing on no.1 ignition wire but when you do, the little groove on the harmonic balancer is under the car instead of where the timing notches on the motor are on the top passenger side of the motor. So for shits and giggles you hook up your timing light to no.2 plug wire and you see the harmonic balancer mark right on the timing marks that are bolted to the upper passenger side of the engine.......

What would be your next course of action bearing in mind you have no whistles that replace spark plugs, no third hand to hold your thumb over no. 1 plug hole while you turn over the motor by hand and no tools or other people around. Now what?

 

[LocuMob]

Your thumb goes over the spark plug hole, while cranking the engine with, a remote button hooked up to the starter relay, or a screwdriver on the starter relay, feel the air push your thumb away, and you've gotten pretty dank close to TDC. Next take a marker, white if you can, and make a line on the messed up/incorrect balancer, and check your timing with cylinder numero uno. Two hands is all it takes to find TDC. Remember to unplug the vacuum advance at the distributor so you get an accurate reading. Did you do that in the other thread you posted and didn't listen to? Trying to help you. Posting a new thread isn't going to get a whole new crowd of people to tell you anything different than what was said.

 

[1970cat]

how many miles are on the car? take the distributor cap off and with a socket on the balancer rock it until you feel tension. move it back the other way while watching your rotor until you feel tension again. the rotor and balancer should move together with very little slack. it is possible to get a car running with a jumped timing chain which might account for you strange timing marks.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Walk into the water and drowned myself because when I get this figured out I will soon run out of gas. With no car, no woman, no beer what's the point.

 

[Yatzee]

People are too damned obsessed with timing to understand it's directly related to the octane content in the fuel and how it ignites. Get the motor running and shoot for the highest vacuum you can obtain without pinging under load. You don't really need a vacuum gauge - the ping will tell you when your too far advance. People claim 12 BTDC is perfect but for some reason my engine runs best, produces the highest vacuum, and starts best at 16 BTDC. Go figure.

 

[abloch]

So the first thing you're going to need to do is fabricate a 1/2" box end wrench. Try coconuts. Then remove the distributor and set aside. Next remove the distributor drive gear and rotate one tooth over in the direction the the timing marks are off. I don't remember off hand which way that would be. Re-install distributor and recheck marks.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Nope it is still slipped, if you don't think it is then you need to double check it.

 

[butchr66]

It's ok....the retarded body and paint guy turned hydraulic mechanic got it. Harmonic balancer was turned around is all. But thank ya'll for the mechanical mastery! lol

 

[1978 NYB]

How many miles are on it? If it's a lot the timing chain could be stretched. Might be time to replace the timing chain.

 

[butchr66]

Nope it is still slipped, if you don't think it is then you need to double check it.

I thought so too but it wouldn't slip to 180 degrees and stay there.

 

[67-Fury]

He got banned? Dam i leave for a few hours and miss all the good stuff

 

[tallhair]

1 day. He is welcome to come back tomorrow.