This information was from a home built airplane Site . I thought it was a great read .
Interesting write-up about ethanol in our gas
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cbarge
World Famous Barge in a Budget
I like the home testing! 
BTW,there is Ethanol in Newfoundland at all gas stations with the exceptions that you mentioned Canadian Tire and Irving,and Shell.
I did my homework when I drove the BoaB "downhome" 2018.
BTW,there is Ethanol in Newfoundland at all gas stations with the exceptions that you mentioned Canadian Tire and Irving,and Shell.
I did my homework when I drove the BoaB "downhome" 2018.
cbarge
World Famous Barge in a Budget
BTW,of all my travels with my 68 Newport, when I ask the station attendant about the ethanol content of their gas when it is not posted at the pump 95% do not know.
"Let me call my boss" or Can I call you?" No I am passing through dammit!
Chaulk that up to poor training.
They do not get any proper product information training and nor do most care since they are not car people or most not from this country to begin with.
"Let me call my boss" or Can I call you?" No I am passing through dammit!
Chaulk that up to poor training.
They do not get any proper product information training and nor do most care since they are not car people or most not from this country to begin with.
Newport 66
Old Man with a Hat
I absolutely refuse to burn ethanol in my older vehicles and am considering the same for my 2016. Now the government wants to mandate e15?? Not good for anything except the subsidized industry it props up.
I conducted similar tests at home to convince several individuals about the damaging effects of the stuff.
I conducted similar tests at home to convince several individuals about the damaging effects of the stuff.
Be glad you have the option to avoid non-ethanol where you are, in the DC/Balt. are (or anywhere close to it) it has all disappeared...……
goodneighbour
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I read an article in MCG on this stuff and the 15% is bad news for everyone, hell the military doesn't even want to put that **** in anything!! I've had rubber hi pressure fuel lines fall apart in my fingers with the 10% garbage they push os us in my daily beater
Do people realize that it takes 2 gallons of gas to manufacture 1 gallon of ethanol. This is another great idea from our ineffient government.
Rapidtrans777
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And down here (Florida) more and more stations are adding non-ethanol pumps. Even have stations selling VP.
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
Well there are some rocket scientist to listen to.
Gasoline is such a wonderful fuel.
Only burns correctly in a narrow ratio window.
Very unstable, with a very poor shelf life.
Needs numerous additives just to make it to the 87 crap octane we loath so much.
Only reason it became a viable fuel is because of price of a cast off byproduct.
MoPar Maniac
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87 octane is much higher octane than what was available many years ago. Back then engines ran 6:1 or so comp ratios and would self destruct with compression much higher.
The article in the OP is incorrect on one item. Gasoline does NOT absorb water. Funny its from an aviation website. If gas absorbed water why does the condensation that forms in the tank stay separated and go to the bottom where it gets drained off before flight?
The article in the OP is incorrect on one item. Gasoline does NOT absorb water. Funny its from an aviation website. If gas absorbed water why does the condensation that forms in the tank stay separated and go to the bottom where it gets drained off before flight?
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
Yes kinda my point.
It is a crap fuel that is only viable because of price and a **** ton of additives, otherwise it would be around 65-70 octane.
Another point to ponder is the only people racing on the stuff are the guys that used to ride around with gallons of ethanol to sell for drinking.
Newport 66
Old Man with a Hat
Gasoline does not, but the ethanol (up to 15% around here) does. 100 low lead av gas doesnt contain ethanol. Temperature changes create condensation.
MoPar Maniac
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That is may point. The guy in the article blew any credibility when he said gas absorbs water. And being as the article came from an aviation website I would assume he at least has some aviation knowledge and every time he sumps the tanks on his aircraft he would see gas and water don't mix.
s for the only people using ethanol as a fuel...well, I have never made or carry shine but it does make a pretty good fuel for a race car. Problem is its hard to tune with and ya need to use a lot of it to produce the same power as gas.
If 87 octane fuel is crap due to additives then 115 must really be crap.
s for the only people using ethanol as a fuel...well, I have never made or carry shine but it does make a pretty good fuel for a race car. Problem is its hard to tune with and ya need to use a lot of it to produce the same power as gas.
If 87 octane fuel is crap due to additives then 115 must really be crap.
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
Nope same crap just more additives to boost it up to a usable form and some anti-icing additives which if I'm not mistaken are partly a form of alcohol.
Methonol is more preferred for fuel, keeps the ATF away and is easier to keep the quality. In racing does anybody really worry about mileage?
MoPar Maniac
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Then straight gas with no additives must be the bee's knees!
Corn squeezins have a problem in storage. It likes to attract water.
And using it as a fuel works but you burn almost three times as much. And its corrosive. Eats seals and rubber hoses and some gas tanks.
The engine runs cool but since the a/f mixture is so rich the alcohol gets past the rings and dilutes the oil unless you use oil that isn't soluble by alky. But you are still pumping it through the engine until it gets drained.
Corn squeezins have a problem in storage. It likes to attract water.
And using it as a fuel works but you burn almost three times as much. And its corrosive. Eats seals and rubber hoses and some gas tanks.
The engine runs cool but since the a/f mixture is so rich the alcohol gets past the rings and dilutes the oil unless you use oil that isn't soluble by alky. But you are still pumping it through the engine until it gets drained.
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