"Old man yells at clouds."
Is anyone else depressed looking at new vehicles?
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"Old man yells at clouds."
Samplingman
Old Man with a Hat
Since my '08 Toyota is heading up past 200K I've begun to look at potential offerings. I figured I have another 150k to go so I'll need something in the next 5 years, that's how long it took me to find what I have now. I too have been discouraged by ridiculous prices and bloated electronics. I test drove a '23 Challenger RT and it was underwhelming. The funny sport button only made the thing louder, so I wasn't sure what that was about, and we had to pull over to figure out how to adjust the mirrors, only to give up after 10 minuets. I hate digital readout speedometers and my test drive was stuck on KPH for some reason, I thought at first this thing is fast, I'm doing 80, LOL! Why do they need both an analog and a digital speedometer is a mystery, forget the pages and pages of screens. No matter, by the time I'm ready to buy, these will be used cars and AI will have taken over the word. I might be able to afford the Scat Pack or the '23 300C which has got my attention.
As for the Nerd comment, after working with develpopers for the past 30 years, these people are tasked on individual operations that are eventually rolled up into the finished product, I don't think they have much input either way unless they are team leaders. It's this push for everything all at once that makes these things over priced and teched out beyond comprehension.
As for the Nerd comment, after working with develpopers for the past 30 years, these people are tasked on individual operations that are eventually rolled up into the finished product, I don't think they have much input either way unless they are team leaders. It's this push for everything all at once that makes these things over priced and teched out beyond comprehension.
MSRP for vehicles are in the stratosphere and loan interest rates are sky high too. That combination is a great way for people to financially cripple themselves and it should be enough to throw ice water on the allure of new vehicles.
I prefer knob and button controls too.
I prefer knob and button controls too.
azblackhemi
Old Man with a Hat
Even though I'm an old fart I'm kinda liking some of the newfangled tech stuff in my car. Yeah, the touch screen isn't safe to use when driving but the radio and phone can be controlled with buttons on the steering wheel and the A/C/Heat also has old school controls in addition to the screen. The adaptive cruise is nice on the highway. I did turn off the lane departure feature though.
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
The sport button activates the exhaust, alters the trans shift points, and changes the steering effort as programmed. Can't remember all the settings controlled by it.
Yea, I've gotten real used to the heated seats and steering wheel too.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Right, so it runs out harder and handles a tad stiffer, better.
I'm not sure why James feels it was underwhelming. I'd like to know more. On a 345 with traction control off and 245s you'll spin the tires off the rims.
Now imagina a 392, beast of an engine.
We haven't even talked Cats or REs.
Samplingman
Old Man with a Hat
I don’t know Dave, I guess I expected more from all the hype? It is 4500 lbs car with I think, 370 hp, and I’ve driven a few modern cars with just as much if not more power from smaller engines, so I attributed my experience to the overall weight and the 5.7. I had 3 other adults with me, guessing that didn’t help. I plan on a comparison with the 392. I didn’t find any Scat Packs around, but there are 2 300C’s on a dealer lot near where I work, hoping to get a test drive in. Admittedly, I didn’t take the Chally through its paces with the sport mode, but as you know that’s kind of hard to do in Jersey even on the highway. I’m still not a fan of the bland interiors and the over emphasis of tech on the dash, preferring instead the cleaner look of the gauges in the 2014 and older models.
LocuMob
Fluid Technician with a hat
That's one thing I like about my Charger, the dash is basically the same as the '12 SXT I had. They really stretched a dollar on the Charger models.
LocuMob
Fluid Technician with a hat
The previous owner was kind enough to turn that, and all the other gizmos off. I live out in the sticks anyway, and don't have any use for them.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
The Chevy dealer in Delran, rt 130 has a Hellraisin Shaker Scat, non Fatso, no sunroof. I'm pretty sure it's a Scat. It is right put front for the world to see.
Drive a Scat with 275s or 305s so it has the bite. Not just tire incinerators. They'll push to 150 pretty quick. Beyond that , it tops out close to 2.
BUt I get it, they're missing something. Not sure if you'll find it.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
I'm still waiting for one of you guys to put your six-speed up for sale. 
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I revisited this on my 300M and it does only make noise once and the light on the dash actually goes out after a minute or 2 as well. The Phord never stops though…
Samplingman
Old Man with a Hat
Yep, I pass that one every day, looks cool. I looked it up, 2020 for $42k and it’s a manual, which is not what I’m looking for but I’d drive it for fun, plus it has that Shaker!
I agree. New cars are overpriced and have way too much technology for me. I want to drive my car, not have my car drive me. I hate with a passion touch screens and the absence of knobs . And cars today are sooo boring in design. Remember the sixties and seventies when you had a huge selection of designed vehicles that all stood out. Color selection was very large and you had a choice of many different color interiors. Not just gray or black. Not to mention options. You could pick and choose what you wanted. Today you are stuck with trim levels that include certain options and to get what you want you have to spend thousands more . I truly miss the good old days I think that's why a lot of us are on here We love the old stuff!
67newport
Old Man with a Hat
the older cars will not listen to what you are talking about and will not have kill switches that will be mandated by 2026.
67newport
Old Man with a Hat
i have a 1985 buick lesabre what i this is optioned odd. it is a collectors series but has manual windows, no tilt, no cruise. back when your were able to personalize your car.
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