My Unicorn, eh?

[cbarge]

I'm going to fix the Canadian car, it's a true factory four speed, and that what I want, a real one

Better start googling "CHRYCO" parts.. Lol!
Door panels are also Sport Fury fyi.

 

[fury fan]

Scott, the Plymouth instrument cluster and the sport fury interior need to be considered in the decision.
My .02

That made sense to me too - at first.
But - it will not be an original car, so whether it has the Canadian-correct SF interior does not matter.
Unless it's a matter of the original car having a better interior - which is unknown to me.

It's only money.

I thought about that after talking to him. Not sure what differences there may be between the two cars. They use the same style seats and trim in the rear, but wasn't positive if they used the same mounting points for the dash. Being the penny pinchers they were, I wouldn't be surprised if Chrysler designed them in a similar fashion, or completely different.

I'm going to fix the Canadian car, it's a true factory four speed, and that what I want, a real one.

I noticed recently that in the area where the 2 angled braces run from floorpan to package shelf (behind the upper of the rear seat) my 300L has ~4" more space between the braces and the kickup over the rear axle vs my 65 SF. I knew the Dodge/Chrysler had a longer wheelbase vs the Plymouth, and that the difference was in teh rear seating area, but I assumed it was in the floorpan and therefore more legroom. Unless I'm missing something, they added the extra in a useless area - no additional legroom, and no additional trunk space?

So I googled:
66 Fury wheelbase = 119in, 66 Dodge Polara = 121in, 65 Chrysler = 124in. I did not realize all 3 brands had different WB!

So anyway - to do the mechanical, you'd need a longer driveshaft, but that could presumably come from the receiver vehicle.

 

[Ross Wooldridge]

Identical - 66 USA Sport Fury dash and Canadian Monaco are identical, mounting points and all. I used a USA Fury dash with AC when I restored my first Canadian Monaco (the Turquoise one). Bolted right up.

Legendary makes the right seat covers. The only challenge will be finding good quality door cards and rear cards.

 

[LocuMob]

So anyway - to do the mechanical, you'd need a longer driveshaft, but that could presumably come from the receiver vehicle.

They are both Monacos, so there shouldn't be an issue. I'll redo the interior with the correct Sport Fury seat covers, and dye the rest of the vinyl in Gold. Carpet of course as well as a headliner. I'll only be using the US Monacos for the sheet metal, and rebuilding the Canadian car. It might end up like @65MonacoND's 300 Hurst car, but I'm fine with that, I have enough cars to donate the parts needed.

The car is complete, and the interior isn't bad considering it's past years of neglect. I have an uphill battle but I feel it's worth it. I hope to end up with one Monaco 500 on the road, but I'll be fine if I don't. The four speed is the one that matters.

 

[LocuMob]

Identical - 66 USA Sport Fury dash and Canadian Monaco are identical, mounting points and all. I used a USA Fury dash with AC when I restored my first Canadian Monaco (the Turquoise one). Bolted right up.

I was wondering between the US 65-66 Monaco dash (the best dash ever ) and the Fury dash. They're probably the same.

Legendary makes the right seat covers. The only challenge will be finding good quality door cards and rear cards.

We've talked about the covers, glad they're available if I need to go that route. I'm hoping I can salvage the door cards I have, and just dye them.

 

[Ross Wooldridge]

Yeah, I like the USA Monaco/Polara dash, but if you did use that, then you take away a good part of the Canadian uniqueness... the USA dash would bolt right in though.

 

[LocuMob]

Yeah, I like the USA Monaco/Polara dash, but if you did use that, then you take away a good part of the Canadian uniqueness... the USA dash would bolt right in though.

It's already in place, if I were to go that route, but I'm not. I'm really hoping the car I have in storage has good enough body panels, then I could keep the Seattle car and get it back out on the road. The other FF1 car isn't as solid in the trunk, and the engine is stuck, it just needs more attention.

I have come to appreciate the Fury dash in a Dodge car.

 

[fury fan]

I have come to appreciate the Fury dash in a Dodge car.

Although I wouldn't vote the 65-66 Dodge dash as the best ever, I do prefer it to the 65-66 Fury dash. I even have a loose 65 Custom 880 dash in my loft, I've kept it for some reason.

And GM thought enough to use cues from it in the late-90s Grand Am.

 

[pomonamissel]

nice buy , to bad about the quarter .

 

[LocuMob]

Although I wouldn't vote the 65-66 Dodge dash as the best eve

I'm biased as can be, and I love that dash. I liked the Fury dash, in a Fury but not a Dodge, until I got mine. Then it was totally acceptable, funny how that works.

 

[fury fan]

I know.
We had a 66 Fury when I was a kid (that's what started my sickness) and I thought the 65s were so bland (the grille, at least).
Then I bought a 65 and I like it better than the 66 now.

 

[pomonamissel]

i've got a 65 880 rag , and that dash is quite cool with the twin gauge cluster .

 

[LocuMob]

i've got a 65 880 rag , and that dash is quite cool with the twin gauge cluster .

I will still have two cars with that dash, so I won't be without.

 

[pomonamissel]

i only have one 65 dodge c body , my 880 rag . but the neighbor backed his truck into my drivers quarter panel and bent it just behind the rear wheel house and bent the molding to . so i need a molding to fix it the right way . it's just waiting for a freshing up .

 

[fury fan]

only challenge will be finding good quality door cards and rear cards.

@Ross Wooldridge
By 'door cards', do you mean the bare hardboard panel or the entire thing?

 

[Ross Wooldridge]

Entire thing. Door card is a generic term for the finished trim panel.

 

[SGVert]

I was wondering between the US 65-66 Monaco dash (the best dash ever ) and the Fury dash. They're probably the same.



We've talked about the covers, glad they're available if I need to go that route. I'm hoping I can salvage the door cards I have, and just dye them.

I’ve got some door cards from a 2 door New Yorker that are gold that are in great shape. Not sure if they can fit but they’re yours if you want them. I’ve had them for 20 years and am tired of moving them…

 

[70bigblockdodge]

That made sense to me too - at first.
But - it will not be an original car, so whether it has the Canadian-correct SF interior does not matter.
Unless it's a matter of the original car having a better interior - which is unknown to me.


I noticed recently that in the area where the 2 angled braces run from floorpan to package shelf (behind the upper of the rear seat) my 300L has ~4" more space between the braces and the kickup over the rear axle vs my 65 SF. I knew the Dodge/Chrysler had a longer wheelbase vs the Plymouth, and that the difference was in teh rear seating area, but I assumed it was in the floorpan and therefore more legroom. Unless I'm missing something, they added the extra in a useless area - no additional legroom, and no additional trunk space?

So I googled:
66 Fury wheelbase = 119in, 66 Dodge Polara = 121in, 65 Chrysler = 124in. I did not realize all 3 brands had different WB!

So anyway - to do the mechanical, you'd need a longer driveshaft, but that could presumably come from the receiver vehicle.

On the A's and B's Chrysler used the hole position in the front spring hanger to alter the wheelbase (2 inches). The floor and rails are the same between Plymouth and the longer Dodges.
With a C body the stub frame can be different because it controls the dimensions of the firewall forward.
Items and placement above the floorpan become model specific, sedan, coupe, sports roof, convertible, etc.

 

[LocuMob]

Woo hoo! Just got done talking with Wyatt @71Polara383, and I now have a correct year 383 that was refreshed a few years ago. He sent some pictures, and I asked about buying it after seeing it was a '66 block. Clean inside, has later year heads that have hardened seats, and a new cam installed.

I'll try to get it up to Minnesota as soon as I can, inspect it and get it ready to go into the car.

 

[LocuMob]

Got back froma trip to @furious70 and @71Polara383 today. Tires first and engine second. I also got some parts from Carlisle @sixpkrt and @ayilar got for me. Thanks to everyone!