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70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
While I agree with what you are saying. The "forcing us to accept electric cars" on their schedule I believe is a propaganda exercise. Much like the self driving car propaganda of a few years ago. Now what? They have had a few incidents and accidents and the reality has set in (I will venture the lawyers licking their lips has not helped). Although self driving cars have huge problems to overcome, legally, and morally, electric cars still are driven by you and me (for now). These would seem easier to get into the mainstream so the self driving torch that has been dropped is now picked up by the electric car fans. The problem is when the electric car accepting people are used up..... then what? When the 24 & 36 month leases start expiring in '27, '28 the first car company that ramps up ICE production will look like a bad guy for a few months then ten years later that CEO is going to be proclaimed a genius. This is all a sham to set your company up to be the one to fill a hole in the market that they created, all with the help of politicians who are in their pocket already.Minor highjack .. I apologize in advance
electrics? still "golf carts" to me. quiet .. maybe that's whats pissing me off. but maybe I am like that old codger, my age now but 120 years ago, bah-humbuggin' that horseless carriage ... without "Mr. Ed" in front of it. WTF is the world coming to!?
That Lucid .. somebody put a video here with one of the enthusiast mags' writers extolling that cars virtues. 1,100 horses, on demand, at any speed. He described a "game" I have been playing with my fast cars since I was an idiot teenager. "Get that spot" .. it may have other names when you played it.
On the interstate, pile of traffic ahead of you 1/4 - 1/2 mile. You say to your self, or your riding buddy. I am gonna go "get that spot, left lane in front of the white car, the SUV .. next to the Yellow Freight rig. Count to 30!" By yourself in the car? turn up the music to try to make it before the drum solo.
You downshift, put your foot in it, go tear-assin' up the interstate, weavin', bobbin' lane to lane, whooshin' and exhaust roar, and tach-wrappin' the whole time.
Slow down (dry your sweaty hands/calm your nerves), so the people you passed can give you thumbs up, or flip you the bird .. whatever. The satisfaction of owning a car that do what I want, whenever I want .. that's how I grew up.
That magster guy -- i thought he was wetting his pants while he was talking -- described the exhilaration (if he wanted to) of doing that 'get the spot" thing in the Lucid Air. Heck, you dont even need a Lucid Air to do it .. top of the line Teslas can do it. Y'all seen the 1/4 mile races.
My point: I still have ICE cars that get that spot today while many cars cannot. You all do too. A Lucid though? that thing can put ANY of our cars to shame with the ease ..seemingly effortless "shaken not stirred" way 1,100 horses on demand. There's nothing like it.
Its not really a "fair fight" -- electrics aint got the range -- that'll get fixed in time. I read the Lucid Air's top speed is a buck seventy or something. Many ICE's are faster .. but would get an a**-whoopin' at "normal" speed. electrics will ALWAYS have the raw take-off performance though -- no streetable, pump gas burning ICE vehicle will EVER match
Guess what I am saying is this.
Do i still want a Hellcat? Yup - I luv Bob's new cars. If over $100K to get into one? Guess I will never own one.
But as many of us observed, and others us must may begrudgingly come to know -- while it may take another 30-50 years before ICE's (if ever) get largely supplanted by electrics, its gonna happen.
Before that day comes
I might have to get an electric in a few years .. wet my pants playing "get the spot" -- while I still can/may need to one day (if I can't make it to the rest stop) do both.
Meanwhile, I am waiting with the keys in hand to a 1968 Charger and money for that cheap gas.
Come on new car buyers make my low gas prices a reality.
Stan you know that plan will not work. I was watching a auction the other day and there was a couple of cars. A Buick GN and a Camaro I think both with less than a couple hundred miles on them and they barely made up for inflation to be at zero dollars.
65sporty
Old Man with a Hat
Do they even lease Hellcat's?
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
after I've beaten it like a rented mule.
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
Yes
I just picked up my kitty Saturday at 4% under invoice minus $2000 rebate. And got almost double what my trade was worth pre covid.I predict dealer markups to start approaching insanity right to the end.
You'll probably never see any Hellcat discounted ever again.
Sad.
Congratulations to you, Bob for grabbing that Redeye. AT A DISCOUNT YET!
EDIT: And, oh ya!!! That drop dead gorgeous ScatPack.
I had to order and wait, no deal on the lot.
Not as good as the era of power dollars, but I'm pretty happy...
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
As you should be. A hearty Congratulations to you, sir.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Which special edition is the one?
The Hellcat Swiss Knife?
The residuals are set by the Leasing company based on average Auction Prices of similar vehicles and mileage so yes if the Leasing company place a high enough residual on the Hellcat you would have lower payments. ExampleOK, one night I was chilling and solving the world's problems, I thought about this:
If I buy a new Hellcat it will be worth more in 2 years. Yes?
If I lease a new Hellcat for two years, we can expect the residual value will be what the Hellcat stickered at. YES??
Theoretically, I could do a 2 year lease on a Hellcat for near zero bucks a month. Right?
Burst my bubble and tell me the flaws in my postulation.
Purchase price $85000
2 yr Residual $65000
Finance $20000 over 24 months (Assuming 0%) payments would be $833/month
If residual is equal to MSRP (Will never happen as depreciation is always a factor even when it isn't) then yes your payments would be $0
The way to properly do this is to front the payments up front as a one payment lease ($20000) then off load the Hellcat 2 yrs later for $85000 and get your $20000 back
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
I purposely posed this question hoping you'd answer this scenario.
Took you long enough.
"... WILL NEVER HAPPEN..."
Thought I found a loophole
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commando1
Old Man with a Hat
And I don't have $20,000.00
I purposely posed this question hoping you'd answer this scenario.
Took you long enough.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
I think this was calculated for five years.
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