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Wheel hop.
Saw some ghosts on the freeway
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70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
Okay here goes its wheel hop, which you can get in a mopar also but is greatly reduced by Chrysler placing the axel toward the front half of the leaf spring thus making more of a link at front with most of the movement toward rear half, this is why a mopar rises in rear when doing a brake torque. Ford and GM place the axel more in the center of spring better ride worse everything else. Another benefit to having axel forward is when car leans in a turn the axel angle in the car changes making the rear help to steer around a curve. Simple, effective, cheap, works great on cars from 170/6 valiant to completely decked out imp.
tbm3fan
Old Man with a Hat
In the interview with the stunt driver this is where he said he overshot the turn and had to back up the car and it didn't have limited slip differential. He also said that the scene where the Charger hit that car was also from an over steer situation and it wasn't planned.
Cool info and feed back....
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
I think there was a lot of unplanned in that chase the w.s.j. article is really cool where he drives around with the mustang stunt driver mr. Janes wish someone would have done that with Bill Hickman (i'm a little partial) could you imagine going 50-60mph on S.F. city streets I don't care if it was cleared and controlled or not this is not flat ground, and I'm from Pittsburgh its not like I've never seen a hilly street before. That's the stuff that makes movie magic not the c.g. stuff now.
tbm3fan
Old Man with a Hat
The steepest streets of San Francisco
http://www.7x7.com/arts-culture/real-top-10-list-steepest-streets-san-francisco
There are some which are a left or right turn off the fairly level road you are on. When you start your turn you do not see a road at all but just space. Then you go over the cross walk markings and go oh, s$*t as you now feel like you are going straight down. Been there done that. Even more hairy is coming up one, which is several blocks long, with red lights at each block. You are in a stick and get caught at the light with someone right behind you.
That brings up a story. It is late 1973 and I just learned the basics of a stick shift on a Mercury Capri in San Diego. I come up to the Bay Area to visit my parents who are about to go to Europe for a few weeks. My father has a 1973 911E Targa as a company car. Of course, I take it for a few drives while he is gone. Actually a very uncomfortable car for me at 6'1" and my knees hitting everything.
Freeway driving no sweat and I quickly learn why Porsche drivers flash their head lights at other Porsche drivers. Then one Sunday I drive to the City. I don't recall why or where I went but it wasn't in the immediate downtown or financial districts. To get to the Bay Bridge east, which had four entrances to choose from, I choose the 2nd Street approach since two of the others I was unawares of. A newbie in the City but eventually learned all the the secrets. Second Street is about an 18-20% grade to the top where the old, now gone, Union 76 orange ball was atop a building. There is a light at the top and across the street is the bridge entrance.
It took me three tries to get through that light when it turned green. The first two times I rolled all the way back down the long city street because I couldn't take off from a stop in the clutch. There were no cars behind me as this is 1973 and not 2013 so no cars down there. On the third try I simply timed my approach slowly so I hit the top when the light turned green and could drive through in 2nd gear. Not until the mid-80's did I ever get near a steep street in the City again just went around them. Then one night I took a wrong turn downtown and ended up going up a >20% grade street and hit the light. FLASHBACK! Now car behind me and I put my emergency brake on for when the light goes red. I got through that but still to this day avoid the steeper streets as they are truly murder on a clutch.
Forget about driving the Dodge in the City as I don't know how anyone would do that in a car so big with packed to the gills traffic. So if you are visiting then I would take you down one of those streets but can forget about up since my daily drivers have been sticks since 1980.
http://www.7x7.com/arts-culture/real-top-10-list-steepest-streets-san-francisco
There are some which are a left or right turn off the fairly level road you are on. When you start your turn you do not see a road at all but just space. Then you go over the cross walk markings and go oh, s$*t as you now feel like you are going straight down. Been there done that. Even more hairy is coming up one, which is several blocks long, with red lights at each block. You are in a stick and get caught at the light with someone right behind you.
That brings up a story. It is late 1973 and I just learned the basics of a stick shift on a Mercury Capri in San Diego. I come up to the Bay Area to visit my parents who are about to go to Europe for a few weeks. My father has a 1973 911E Targa as a company car. Of course, I take it for a few drives while he is gone. Actually a very uncomfortable car for me at 6'1" and my knees hitting everything.
Freeway driving no sweat and I quickly learn why Porsche drivers flash their head lights at other Porsche drivers. Then one Sunday I drive to the City. I don't recall why or where I went but it wasn't in the immediate downtown or financial districts. To get to the Bay Bridge east, which had four entrances to choose from, I choose the 2nd Street approach since two of the others I was unawares of. A newbie in the City but eventually learned all the the secrets. Second Street is about an 18-20% grade to the top where the old, now gone, Union 76 orange ball was atop a building. There is a light at the top and across the street is the bridge entrance.
It took me three tries to get through that light when it turned green. The first two times I rolled all the way back down the long city street because I couldn't take off from a stop in the clutch. There were no cars behind me as this is 1973 and not 2013 so no cars down there. On the third try I simply timed my approach slowly so I hit the top when the light turned green and could drive through in 2nd gear. Not until the mid-80's did I ever get near a steep street in the City again just went around them. Then one night I took a wrong turn downtown and ended up going up a >20% grade street and hit the light. FLASHBACK! Now car behind me and I put my emergency brake on for when the light goes red. I got through that but still to this day avoid the steeper streets as they are truly murder on a clutch.
Forget about driving the Dodge in the City as I don't know how anyone would do that in a car so big with packed to the gills traffic. So if you are visiting then I would take you down one of those streets but can forget about up since my daily drivers have been sticks since 1980.
I've been on some very steep roads around the world too. Some scared the crap out of me when they came up unexpected. Aberdeen Proving Ground (behind the fence at the Army Test Center) has some very, very steep unpaved roads on the various Test Courses. Those will scare the crap out of the best of the best drivers/testers. They switch directions every 6 hours and it's very hairy when driving in "Black Out Drive" mode. For those unfamiliar with BO Drive mode...it's pretty much driving without headlights and taillights
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And one tail light.....
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
You mean we're still worried about German Bomber attacks?
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
Yeah I've been to San Francisco probably half dozen times while in Navy rented cars drove around the streets and of course Lombard st. not sure if that correct spelling (the curvy street,with the flowers). Two of my best friends from Navy who I keep in touch with ones from Chicago and the other is from Detriot both flat landers, I think the both where a little freaked out by turning into space waiting for hood to drop so you can see like you mentioned, we would rent Lincoln town cars from the mid eighties when they still had a hood, and a 5.0 mustang motor. I always wanted to retrace the parts of the chase but there wasn't the kind of info you can get now have to take a trip out there again.
Nope.....enemy laser targeting devices are the probable threat on today's battlefield.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Waaaaaaaaaay after my time....
What year did you enlist again?
What year did you enlist again?
Mr C
Senior Member
I would think IEDs are up there near number 1 too.
Mr C
Senior Member
I really like the sub-thread of pics of owners cruising their C bodies. Here's some pics of me in my cars on the road.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
"Target locked..."
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
I like the shot of the back of the wagon no jellybean cars in picture looks like it could have been taken 35yrs ago without the graininess
1976
They are when we are dealing with sand terrorists.
But we have to plan for WWIII scenario's......
bluefury361
Old Man with a Hat
Heck, I'll get into the Mopar convoy........
Cool picture..... I have a shot of what I think is the same tunnel taken in 1969...... Through the windshield of a 1969 Polara wagon. I don't remember for sure but we were either coming or going to York US 30 dragway..... Always traveled in a caravan of racers from Detroit.
bluefury361
Old Man with a Hat
This is what we had hooked onto the rear of the Polara
Yep, I believe it's the same tunnel.
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