simple oil change - until i got Fram ed

65Fury440 said:
Won't happen again, sir! :(
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Meh don't let em get to you too bad. we've all done it. I've left the spindle lock on several times in the past. Since my mill is gear driven it makes a hell of a racket. Not to mention having to replace gears.
 
I swapped the oil pan on a Gen III Hemi with a cast-aluminum deep pan that is only used in testing (and has a second fitting for a dipstick, which is never used). Somebody removed the 2nd 5mm plug and I didn't notice. Because it sits way up, near the block and well above the sump, the engine ran for days (weeks?) at low RPM without a drip. Then I moved into a phase of testing that ramps to almost 5000 rpm for 8+ hours.

Talk about oil windage!

Unfortunately this occurred during overnight hours. KAFKNBOOM!!! I arrived the next day to a test cell coated in oil, and a rod through the block. Because of the data recorders, it was at least interesting to see how friction/temps rose and where power started falling. It took quite a bit of time before it died. Special-built Hemi with custom parts, now a lump of scrap.

Oh and the oil gasket thing? People have done that as well.
 
Carmine said:
I swapped the oil pan on a Gen III Hemi with a cast-aluminum deep pan that is only used in testing (and has a second fitting for a dipstick, which is never used). Somebody removed the 2nd 5mm plug and I didn't notice. Because it sits way up, near the block and well above the sump, the engine ran for days (weeks?) at low RPM without a drip. Then I moved into a phase of testing that ramps to almost 5000 rpm for 8+ hours.

Talk about oil windage!

Unfortunately this occurred during overnight hours. KAFKNBOOM!!! I arrived the next day to a test cell coated in oil, and a rod through the block. Because of the data recorders, it was at least interesting to see how friction/temps rose and where power started falling. It took quite a bit of time before it died. Special-built Hemi with custom parts, now a lump of scrap.

Oh and the oil gasket thing? People have done that as well.
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So where you able to tell how long the engine ran after the rod bearings failed. I've been to round track races where they had a bomber class & the engines would be squealing from bearings seizing & barely running, but running. The engine would be shaking violently & Pull the dip stick while it was running & coated with metal shavings. The 318's where famous for this. Damn hard to kill engine. They would quit smoking because no oil was left in it. Burned it all out
 
ah yes c body bob gets where im comin from on the thick oil.. old school i guess :)

and a bomber race sounds crazy lol. i drove a 302 ferd once and threw a main bearing like that, once you hear that squeal, you will always know that sound heh
 
C Body Bob said:
So where you able to tell how long the engine ran after the rod bearings failed. I've been to round track races where they had a bomber class & the engines would be squealing from bearings seizing & barely running, but running. The engine would be shaking violently & Pull the dip stick while it was running & coated with metal shavings. The 318's where famous for this. Damn hard to kill engine. They would quit smoking because no oil was left in it. Burned it all out
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It was a while ago, it was mostly the ability to dump all the data into Excel and see it on graphs that made it cool. Heat is up, power down, SPIKE, power is off. Then a cascade of safety shutdowns to prevent fire, etc.
 
67Monaco said:
Meh don't let em get to you too bad. we've all done it. I've left the spindle lock on several times in the past. Since my mill is gear driven it makes a hell of a racket. Not to mention having to replace gears.
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The old style belt driven Bridgeport mills make a hell of a racket if you don't get shift right for high and low speed.
 
My downfall more than once was the chuck key on the lathe.
And yes, Mr. Corlis (with a missing finger) swatted me on the head.
 
BeatersRus said:
when i was a hatchling and worked at jiffy lube it was common to see people taking off the old filter and Not check to see if the old rubber seal was On the filter and not stuck to the block...
then theyd screw the new one on,again without checking.

its the first thing i thought of,cause frams usually dont go bad.
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Had that happen once to me way back in 1975. Was changing the oil in my sister's 1974 Capri V6. Finished, went off down the road to check, immediately smelled oil and got it back. Yep, leaking through oil filter as there were now two gaskets under the filter. First and only time it ever happened and I started changing oil back in 1970.

As for filters I use Motorcraft on everything.
 
70bigblockdodge said:
Ahh so your driveway will make pretty rainbows for a while.
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happens to the best of us...:rolleyes:

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saylor said:
was out this morning changing teh oil, wax on wax off, everything was splendid. brand new zinc valvoline oil good to go.

start it up, give it a few licks, and i hear the worst ever engine quief gurgle belch noise ever heard. somethings not right. houston! there is absofknloutely a problem! shut er down Norm, shes slingin Earl!

so WTH, the whole underside is drenched in oil - 5 quarts of pristine 50w racing oil with extra zinc are now in my driveway -View attachment 135185

it looks like the filter failed somehow in some way at the seal -

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I had a Fram filter that I decided to split open due to fluctuations in oil pressure and take a look inside I used a zip disk to remove the can from the threaded top. Low and behold, the pleating had separated at the seam and was bunched up on one side. I saw a picture a fellow had posted on a forum where his lower rad hose spring ended up in his water pump and to this day I don't know if part of the filter is in my engine galleys.
 
Yatzee said:
I had a Fram filter that I decided to split open due to fluctuations in oil pressure and take a look inside I used a zip disk to remove the can from the threaded top. Low and behold, the pleating had separated at the seam and was bunched up on one side. I saw a picture a fellow had posted on a forum where his lower rad hose spring ended up in his water pump and to this day I don't know if part of the filter is in my engine galleys.
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yikes!!

btw Mate, I thought you were in London?? :poke: lol
 
Looking at the old filter to see if the o-ring is still intact is a great habit to get into. I also wipe off the oil filter mount before I put on the new filter. I do both steps to insure I don't burn up a customers engine.:)
 
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