Water Coming out of Tailpipes

[Mudeblue]

I have a 65 Fury with a 383 which I restored during which I had a complete engine overhaul which has been driven approximately 1,500 miles . Just recently when driving +/- 40 MPH it started losing power and acting like it was starving for gas. I let up on the accelerator and it started running normal for a period of a few minutes and would repeat the process as then did I and I made it home.

I am waiting to get it back into a shop for some other clean up items from the restoration as expected. In the meantime, I have it in the garage but I need to start it and back it of the garage periodically to get to cabinets and tools. It starts well, runs decent, put it in gear and the starving process starts. If I rev the engine at all, it slowly comes to a stop and dies. I am able to restart it and then it goes through the same process - acting like it is starving for gas but is also missing really bad and dies. I am able to rev the engine to about 2,000 RPM's and then it slowly starts missing and dies and there is nothing I can do to stop it from stopping and then, it restarts. When all this is happening, there is a great deal of water that comes out of the tailpipes onto the driveway; it is water and not anti-freeze. In addition, when I check the water levels they are okay and when I pull the dip stick, no sign of water/anti-freeze. Puzzling.

To my question; is it possible that I got a bad tank of gas when I filled which would explain loading up the carburetor or the cylinders; maybe. Ideas or experience?

 

[413]

The water is a byproduct of combustion, totally normal. And a new engine does it more than a workout or tired engine. You don't see it much in the summer because of the heat. Just like the steam out the tailpipe on a cold engine in the winter.

The running problem is something else and needs to be addressed.

 

[Mudeblue]

The water is a byproduct of combustion, totally normal. And a new engine does it more than a workout or tired engine. You don't see it much in the summer because of the heat. Just like the steam out the tailpipe on a cold engine in the winter.

The running problem is something else and needs to be addressed.

I live it Phoenix and driving the car above 70-80 degrees. The water being expelled, sprayed, is not a few drops, it is an area approximately 12- 18 inches long and 12 wide, both tailpipes and actually forms an area that is standing liquid in a matter of 3-4 minutes. Nope, not combustion water.

 

[volksworld]

anything is possible...I have an old lawnmower tank I use with fresh gas and run a line and filter to the pump inlet if I suspect the gas is the problem...if it is actually starving for fuel, issues could be a clogged line to the tank or fuel pickup, a bad fuel pump, a bad fuel pump pushrod, clogged filter, etc...taking the line off the carb and cranking into a bottle will allow you to see if there's adequate volume from the pump ( please don't set yourself on fire)...if that checks out, choke stuck open will cause it to run lean, or in the case of the last one I dealt with, gas evaporating out of the carb for years had gummed up the main jets and jammed the metering rods in them , only allowing a fraction of the necessary amount of fuel to flow through them...it would still run through the idle circuit but that was about it...ethanol gas can absorb a lot of water and it can go in and out of phase with temperature and weather conditions so starting with fresh gas is your simplest step

 

[Knebel]

The runing issue does sound like a stuck float. The water...hmmm no idea but I have wet spots behind the pipes too on cold starts

 

[CBODY67]

Did y'all put a new fuel pump pushrod in with the rebuild?

As to the water from the tail pipes? Unless it smells of coolant, it is not. It's usually condensate which collected in the muffler and has to be blown-out by the exhaust flow and heat. OEM Chrysler mufflers, plus many aftermarket mufflers, have a small hole at the rear of the bottom side of the muffler to drain condensate out of it.

If you perceive you got some bad gas, there are additives for that.

Take care,
CBODY67

 

[Just Carbs]

Run the gas line from the fuel pump into a clear container and see if there's any water in it.

 

[Big_John]

As said, it's a byproduct of combustion and unless it smells like coolant, it's nothing to worry about it. Sometimes it will collect in the mufflers, especially if the car gets moved around without really being driven.

Your other problem sounds like some sort of fuel delivery problem. Float level, bad fuel pump, fuel pump push rod, are just a couple things to look at. I suggest doing a check with a soda bottle and a rubber hose hooked to the fuel line. Take the coil wire off and crank the motor while you watch for a good fuel flow into the bottle.

 

[Mudeblue]

anything is possible...I have an old lawnmower tank I use with fresh gas and run a line and filter to the pump inlet if I suspect the gas is the problem...if it is actually starving for fuel, issues could be a clogged line to the tank or fuel pickup, a bad fuel pump, a bad fuel pump pushrod, clogged filter, etc...taking the line off the carb and cranking into a bottle will allow you to see if there's adequate volume from the pump ( please don't set yourself on fire)...if that checks out, choke stuck open will cause it to run lean, or in the case of the last one I dealt with, gas evaporating out of the carb for years had gummed up the main jets and jammed the metering rods in them , only allowing a fraction of the necessary amount of fuel to flow through them...it would still run through the idle circuit but that was about it...ethanol gas can absorb a lot of water and it can go in and out of phase with temperature and weather conditions so starting with fresh gas is your simplest step

Attached is a picture I took this morning after starting and running for 2-3 minutes and it died out on two occasions. Has to be a "bad gas" issue and a fill from a bad tank at the gas station within the last three weeks. Running overpriced premium. Concluding it has to be a tank of bad gas given it is water, temperatures outside are 79-80 degrees and most importantly; both tailpipes. Has a new AFB carburetor and new fuel pump! Thanks for comment.

 

[Mudeblue]

As said, it's a byproduct of combustion and unless it smells like coolant, it's nothing to worry about it. Sometimes it will collect in the mufflers, especially if the car gets moved around without really being driven.

Your other problem sounds like some sort of fuel delivery problem. Float level, bad fuel pump, fuel pump push rod, are just a couple things to look at. I suggest doing a check with a soda bottle and a rubber hose hooked to the fuel line. Take the coil wire off and crank the motor while you watch for a good fuel flow into the bottle.

Thanks. See picture and comment below. Has to be water in the gas. No other explanation of further pondering and conditions.

 

[Mudeblue]

Did y'all put a new fuel pump pushrod in with the rebuild?

As to the water from the tail pipes? Unless it smells of coolant, it is not. It's usually condensate which collected in the muffler and has to be blown-out by the exhaust flow and heat. OEM Chrysler mufflers, plus many aftermarket mufflers, have a small hole at the rear of the bottom side of the muffler to drain condensate out of it.

If you perceive you got some bad gas, there are additives for that.

Take care,
CBODY67

Have a half take of gas and should be drained. However, I am unable to lay on my back to get under the car (dr.s removed my stomach and esphogus) and can't lay and drain so I am either going to have to get a lot of additives which might absorb the water or have it hauled to a mechanic. Thanks for comment!

 

[Big_John]

Thanks. See picture and comment below. Has to be water in the gas. No other explanation of further pondering and conditions.

My '65 300L will blow that much water out occasionally and it runs just fine.

 

[Big_John]

Have a half take of gas and should be drained. However, I am unable to lay on my back to get under the car (dr.s removed my stomach and esphogus) and can't lay and drain so I am either going to have to get a lot of additives which might absorb the water or have it hauled to a mechanic. Thanks for comment!

So... Is it ethanol free gas or does it have ethanol in it?

Here's why... Having lived in the cold northeast all my life, the "Dry Gas" that was added to absorb water so the gas line didn't freeze was either methanol or ethanol. The cheap stuff was methanol and the better stuff was ethanol. So, if you have ethanol laced gas, it's already absorbed all the water that it's going to... and adding more ethanol will do nothing.

 

[Boydsdodge]

That amount of water looks ok to me with a cold engine.

 

[mr gtx]

Attached is a picture I took this morning after starting and running for 2-3 minutes and it died out on two occasions. Has to be a "bad gas" issue and a fill from a bad tank at the gas station within the last three weeks. Running overpriced premium. Concluding it has to be a tank of bad gas given it is water, temperatures outside are 79-80 degrees and most importantly; both tailpipes. Has a new AFB carburetor and new fuel pump! Thanks for comment.

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that's not your problem. did you check your gas filter it might tell you what's going on. after it stalls pull a plug to see if it is dry or wet.

 

[Just Carbs]

Attached is a picture I took this morning after starting and running for 2-3 minutes and it died out on two occasions. Has to be a "bad gas" issue and a fill from a bad tank at the gas station within the last three weeks. Running overpriced premium. Concluding it has to be a tank of bad gas given it is water, temperatures outside are 79-80 degrees and most importantly; both tailpipes. Has a new AFB carburetor and new fuel pump! Thanks for comment.

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Well, what do you know. That looks exactly like what my car does, every day.

 

[Sixpactogo]

I'm pretty sure once you get the stalling issue worked out your problems will be over. The condensation builds up in the mufflers on cold starts and never really gets dried out because of the stalling in a couple minutes. If it is fuel related, I would suspect your fuel filter is clogged or the sock in the tank is. If it is not fuel related could it be electrical? Such as a bad ground on the ECU or a weak coil or weak plate coil in the distributor? It does sound fuel related though. I had a similar issue with my 60 Dart years ago and it was the sock in the tank. It was full of rust and after sitting a while it would start and run but not for long. As far as that moisture on start up, Even the Fuel injected 6.1 in my Charger does that until the exhaust system gets heated up.