When was the last production day for C-Bodies?

[PeugFra]

So, the SPN at Newark will include Valiant (50,377), Dart (55,287), Fury (39,134) and Monaco (20,166) - 100001 to 264964

Those model totals for Newark were one of the things I was looking for! Thank you!

SPN for Belvidere includes Fury (91,368), Monaco (58,158) and Chrysler (8,194) - 100001 to 257720

Eliminating DH46T4D258009 because unreliable I actually found no 1974 SPNs that exceed the total production per plant. The 8,194 Chryslers at Belvidere already easily make up for the SPNs I thought were missing.

Therefore it doesnt't matter that Newark also built 1974 Valiants and Darts. Their SPNs are not intermingled with Fury and Monaco SPNs.

Total production for 1974 - Fury (130,502), Monaco (78,324), Chrysler (117,373), Imperial (14,426)

Interesting that your data agree with a total 1974 Monaco production of 78,324. That means that fleet Monacos are already accounted for, although their exact number remains unknown. As a matter of fact the two SPNs I found for police cars, DK41U4D215212 and DK41U4D215750, stay well within the 257720 Belvidere margin.

 

[PeugFra]

And only C body Chryslers were built at East Jefferson for the 1978 model year. The Belvidere plant switched from C body to L body models.

That switch must be the reason why not only for Gran Fury and Royal Monaco, but also for Town & Country 1977 was the last model year. That was the only plant were formal C body station wagons were being built.

 

[ImpJay]

That switch must be the reason why not only for Gran Fury and Royal Monaco, but also for Town & Country 1977 was the last model year. That was the only plant were formal C body station wagons were being built.

77 was the last season for the T&C as a C-body. 78 onwards it labeled the M-body Chrysler LeBaron stw, which got its name from the Imperial.

 

[Bill Watson]

I had stated in an earlier email the magical number we should be looking for is 183514 for the production sequence number. (The last six digits on the VIN).

From what is known -

CS23XXXXXXXXX, SPD 619, MDH 061611 (cited by Caper later in this thread)
CS43T8C181574, SPD 619, MDH 062011 (that's the one in the quote, now for sale at Hemmings)
CS43T8C181591, SPD 619, MDH 052212
CL43N8C182121, SPD XXX, MDH XXXXXX
CS23T8C182464, SPD XXX, MDH XXXXXX
CS43J8C183499, SPD XXX, MDH XXXXXX

The highest PSN is 183499, just 15 cars from the end of production. We need to know the Scheduled Build Date. The highest car on the list has SBD of 619 and PSN 18159 is 2,914 from the end. So, the end looks to be sometime after 619. The Jefferson line was going at 45 cars an hour, with one shift at the beginning of the model year.

July, 1978 production hit 6,686. Now, at 45 per hour, or 360 per day, comes to about 18.57 work days.

July 3 was Monday and July 4 was a holiday. So, they worked four days that week, plus the next two weeks of 5 days = 14.

The fourth week they worked, which started July 24, the final 4.57 days. The final day would be July 28, 1978.

Now, to find that car with SPN 183499 its Scheduled Build Date.

 

[1978 NYB]

So is this the last C produced? 183499

1978 Chrysler New Yorker 30300 original miles All Original

 

[Bill Watson]

So is this the last C produced? 183499

No, the last one built was 183514. We do not know where 183514 is, or if it still exists. But we do know 183499, the 15th from the last C body built, does.

The Scheduled Build Date on 183499 is probably the last day of C body production so if we can check the body tag on it we can determine the Scheduled Build Date. And knowing the Scheduled Build Date on 183499 would give us the last day of production for the C body.

 

[PeugFra]

The Jefferson line was going at 45 cars an hour, with one shift at the beginning of the model year. July, 1978 production hit 6,686. Now, at 45 per hour, or 360 per day, comes to about 18.57 work days.

Sharp thinking, only make that June, 1978 instead of July, 1978. No holidays in June, and June 1st is a Thursday. Subtracting from the 18.57 work days needed to produce the last 6,686 units the first partial week (2 work days only) and the following three full weeks we have (18.57 - 2 - 5 - 5 - 5 =) 1.57 work day left. That would then be Tuesday, June 27.

 

[polara71]

Sharp thinking, only make that June, 1978 instead of July, 1978. No holidays in June, and June 1st is a Thursday. Subtracting from the 18.57 work days needed to produce the last 6,686 units the first partial week (2 work days only) and the following three full weeks we have (18.57 - 2 - 5 - 5 - 5 =) 1.57 work day left. That would then be Tuesday, June 27.

Why June?

 

[1978 NYB]

Why June?

 

[HWYCRZR]

Only 4 years and 4 months from the original post and down to 15 cars from the end. Good sleuthing.

 

[Bill Watson]

Sharp thinking, only make that June, 1978 instead of July, 1978. No holidays in June, and June 1st is a Thursday. Subtracting from the 18.57 work days needed to produce the last 6,686 units the first partial week (2 work days only) and the following three full weeks we have (18.57 - 2 - 5 - 5 - 5 =) 1.57 work day left. That would then be Tuesday, June 27.

Thanks for the correction. Not sure why i was working with July, especially when I knew June was the last month.

 

[PeugFra]

SPN for Belvidere includes Fury (91,368), Monaco (58,158) and Chrysler (8,194) - 100001 to 257720

Now, this is disturbing. In online newspaper archives I found several SPNs that exceed 257720:

DM41K4D258155 (Town of Orangetown, New York)
DP46T4D258426
PH41K4D258904
PH43K4D259326
PH45T4D259375

Also remember DH46T4D258009, previously discarded as unreliable.

I have difficulties explaining them as simple reading/printing errors.

 

[commando1]

 

[69CoronetRT]

No, the last one built was 183514. We do not know where 183514 is, or if it still exists. But we do know 183499, the 15th from the last C body built, does.

The Scheduled Build Date on 183499 is POSSIBLY the last day of C body production so if we can check the body tag on it we can POSSIBLY determine the Scheduled Build Date. And knowing the Scheduled Build Date on 183499 would POSSIBLY give us the last day of production for the C body.

A reminder the SPD and the actual production date do and often vary. A car with a 623 SPD could have been assembled 630 making the SPD misleading and the car still in agreement with the info regarding production in June.

 

[commando1]

A reminder the SPD and the actual production date do and often vary. A car with a 623 SPD could have been assembled 630 making the SPD misleading and the car still in agreement with the info regarding production in June.

Doug, did you read this?

Last Production Dodge Demon For Sale In Australia, Or Is It?

 

[LeBaron1973]

Seems a lot of bull dust Stan, obviously they have one of the last cars, but not the last built. I wish them well in selling a new LHD vehicle which can't legally be registered in Australia unless converted to RHD.

The price is 321k US, maybe a good deal, a car with 22km or 22 miles, where would you find another???
They've got the last number car, not the last built.

 

[69CoronetRT]

Doug, did you read this?

Last Production Dodge Demon For Sale In Australia, Or Is It?

I have now. Thanks for sharing.

People think VINs are ordinal numbers (first, second, third) but they are cardinal ( car number one, car number two, car number three). Cars were not built in VIN sequence number. A VIN is “this car, that car, another car, “ in a semi random order.

Car 3,300 could have been the first, last or 3,299th actually built. It could have the highest, lowest, or 2,757th VIN issued. Only detailed records can tell you the actual sequence.

Confusing that concept is what makes threads like this, or claiming the last Hemi built, hard to prove.

The car with the highest VIN may not be the last built. The car that was last off the production line may have a VIN that is 500 behind the car with highest VIN.

 

[PeugFra]

A statement of the actual build date is the MDH value on the door sticker: Month-Day-Hour. That is what one should be looking for when one wishes to establish the build sequence.

PS. As was already said on page 3 of this thread:

What will really determine the "last" car is the MDH number on the label on the end of the driver's door. THAT's the date of production !

 

[commando1]

People think VINs are ordinal numbers (first, second, third) but they are cardinal ( car number one, car number two, car number three). Cars were not built in VIN sequence number. A VIN is “this car, that car, another car, “ in a semi random order.

I got introduced to all this misinformed mania when I bought a new Vette.
At the Vette level, the people are way more P. T. Barnum-like antics with badly conceived claims. Especially the low numbers.
#2 of five pre-prodiction cars...
First show car of seven...
All:

actually. Rich people are really stupid.
I bought a 96 GM B-body that was built on the last day or so of their production. Big deal.

 

[1978 NYB]

I tried.....