Bob, I hauled ah 12 1/2' gear like your 1st pic from Bucyrus-Erie in Pocatello to West Milwaukee once upon ah time. Only took ah month and ah half to complete that trip. Those idiots at B+E wouldn't or couldn't? use two 10 ton forkliftz to raise it up and let me back underneath it, NOOOOOO, that would make too much sense but they said they only had one 10 ton forklift for each department and the union told the rank and file not to take one forklift into another departments work area SOOOO????. They tried to use two webbed slings from and overhead gantry and weren't smart enough to tie the two of 'um together underneath the ring. After they paid for a new I-beam on the right side of the drop deck I waz draggin' and re-machined all the boogerz out of the ring when it hit the concrete floor, I went back and got it 'bout 6 weekz later. AND ALL I HAVE TO DO IZ HEAR THE WORDZ BUCYRUS-ERIE AND i START LAUGHING ALL OVER AGAIN AND IF MEMORY SERVES, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WAZ IN JANUARY OF '77, lol. Like all of us that have been out there chasin', I got ah million of 'um, Jer