Journey Begins 67' Fury

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Going to start restoring this 67' Fury. It has a 383. It does turn over, but has been sitting since the mid 90's.

I plan to restore to as original as I can. Only thing I plan to change is some disk brakes on the front, and maybe rear too.
It does have the a/c compressor but the lines have been removed. The compressor looks cool, like some steam punk flux capacitor.
I'd like to get that working again, but I'll wait till it's driving before I worry about that.

Anything I should watch out for or any advice before I begin? It'll be my first restore project. It doesn't get have to be a perfect restore, slight modding is acceptable.

There a wiring diagram for these out there?

Thanks!
Don

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The Factory Service Manual usually has the wiring schematics in it. Might want to print it off. www.mymopar.com for a free download.

Nice looking car. Should be good when finished.

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Nice, thanks for the link. This will help for sure, there's sure to be some bad wires from critters. Bonus it'll help as a night time sleep aid, nothing like wiring diagrams to help you fall asleep.
 
For some reason, the links I type do not always work, so might need to input that address manually yourself.
 
Nice looking formal roof Sport Fury. You have come to the right place for info and advice on restoration and any other questions you may have. A factory service manual, whether print or digital, is a must have. Forget about rear disc brakes. I’m not even sure there is an aftermarket upgrade for these cars. Properly restored and serviced, the rear drum set up will do just fine. I still have front drum brakes on my ‘68 Fury III and they work just fine. I must admit that I have been driving this Fury for 43 years and have driven and worked on front drum brake equipped cars most of my life so I am used to them and drive them accordingly. If I were to do a front disc swap I would go with an early’70s C-body setup. Post some more pics when you can. Here is mine
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Here's a few more pictures. Needs a good cleaning. Got some oil and stuff coming before I try starting. Got to clean and tinker with the carb too. Hopefully it fires up.

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Nice looking formal roof Sport Fury. You have come to the right place for info and advice on restoration and any other questions you may have. A factory service manual, whether print or digital, is a must have. Forget about rear disc brakes. I’m not even sure there is an aftermarket upgrade for these cars. Properly restored and serviced, the rear drum set up will do just fine. I still have front drum brakes on my ‘68 Fury III and they work just fine. I must admit that I have been driving this Fury for 43 years and have driven and worked on front drum brake equipped cars most of my life so I am used to them and drive them accordingly. If I were to do a front disc swap I would go with an early’70s C-body setup. Post some more pics when you can. Here is mine View attachment 744890
Thanks for knowledge. I do hate drum breaks. But at least getting front disc seems reasonable.
 
But at least getting front disc seems reasonable.
Just stay away from the junk kits like Leeds or Scarebird. IMHO, the best bang for the buck is using Mopar disc brake parts. Yea, more expensive and you have to source some parts, but the upside is you won't be posting a thread about trying to get the offshore made, GM based parts to fit your Mopar.

This may help.
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Welcome. I once owned a fully loaded 67 Sport Fury with the same engine - a 383 Commando with the automatic transmission.

In addition to the Service Manual, you can purchase a nice color coded wiring diagram from www.classiccarwiring.com 888 606-5319.

The 383 is a good motor. I put on an electronic ignition system and kept the factory carb. I would leave the power drum brakes on it, there has been some debate about converting to front disc, a personal preference. You will however have to replace - rebuild components in the front suspension. Get it running, drive it and see if you like the current drum brakes.

The only issue I had is a star gear in the transmission would per-maturely wear and result in a long shift from 1 st to 2nd. There was a recall on this issue. Had my local transmission shop fix it for me.

Kind of wish I had kept that car, it was fast and a blast to drive. It's now in Europe.

The other weak spot for these cars was the vinyl seats - interior - especially the front seats, they did not hold up that well.

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Never seen a 67 Fury with a full 360° horn ring, that's pretty cool. The RV2 compressor is pretty cool, it's basically a V2 engine on top of a V8 engine lol.
mymopar.com has service manuals for these, the best resource you can get besides decades of hands-on experience from the guys on this forum.
Electrical wise, get a headlight relay harness, either buy a premade one or make it yourself. That takes a HUGE load off your 50+ year old wiring, since it's no longer trying to get up into the dash, through the headlight switch, then back down out into the headlights. You'll also notice a significant improvement in light output, even with stock sealed beams. This also takes a huge load off the high beam foot switch; mine was already slightly melted at one of the wire terminals because of that.
Speaking of the headlight switch, take the dimmer dial off it and give the contacts on all parts a good clean with some 400 grit sandpaper, particularly the one that rubs on the dimmer dial coil. It's probably got a lot of corrosion from all the power running through it.
If you plan on driving this car beyond weekends or sunday cruises I strongly recommend doing the bulkhead bypass - the power feed terminals that go from the battery to there, and the alternator to there, are undersized for the amount of current that goes through them, and can eventually burn up and melt the connector. Best to replace it all with 10 gauge wiring at a minimum (fatter wires if you're going to add lots of/heavy electrical stuff). You'll probably stumble upon the ammeter bypass mod, some of that info applies to our cars, but the ammeter in Chrysler passenger cars is more than capable of handling a lot of current...it's just the bulkhead connector that's the real problem. Cleaning up the terminals can get you by but better to just bypass those puny terminals.
The next suggestion is replacing the gauges' factory mechanical voltage limiter with a solid state one. The mechanical limiter limits the 12 volts down to 5 that the gauges need but it can fail in a few ways, one of them being that it just lets the full 12 volts go into your gauges frying everything. RTE sell a bunch if you can't make your own, not cheap but they're very well built. I've got one in my car and it's great.
If you ever want to upgrade to electronic ignition and are still rocking the external voltage regulator in the engine bay, replace that with a solid state one too if it's still mechanical - electronic ignition doesn't like voltage fluctuations and the solid state electronics will provide a much steadier flow of power.
If you hate glass fuses you might want to look into flexfuse converters that allow you to stick the more modern blade fuses into glass fuse slots, but this is a questionable mod as they're frigging expensive. There apparently used to be a predecessor called converta-fuse but it seems like the company that made them only did so for five years, from 2013-18.
After watching Uncle Tony's video on drum brake rebuild tricks I actually don't mind them at all now - in fact I don't even know how to use those drum brake spring pliers to get the return springs back on - only way I know how is a screwdriver sitting on the spring anchor as a fulcrum, then pulling the handle towards and over it, and the spring slips right on. Removing them I still need that tool you twist though. Get a good one that has the little groove in it that the spring sits in and acts as a cam, the cheaper ones don't have that and it's much more annoying.
OE disc brake conversions using the 72-onwards spindles would be the best, but I converted the front brakes on mine to disc brakes with the ECI brake kit. Some people don't like it using GM parts (the calipers are from a 78-81 firebird) but they open up a lot of pad options and service parts are very easy to get a hold of as they were used in so many vehicles for several decades, so if you're concerned about that I'd go with that. The instructions also contain a list of part numbers for cross referencing too.
The main reason I converted to discs though was because I do intend to drive it hard, and up and down mountains so drums would be a problem. If you're just driving around town front drums are more than adequate. Drums actually stop quicker than discs (assuming the tyres aren't locked up) but they suck at heat dissipation.
If you don't like the numbness and disconnectedness of the factory steering, Firm Feel does OEM, stage 1, 2 and 3 upgrades. OEM is just refurbishing your box, stage 1 is firmer than the cop car boxes, stage 2 is firmer still, and stage 3 even more so. If you want to go even further, borgeson also has a unit that replaces it with a much lighter one and judging by what the A and B body owners who have this box say, the general consensus is that it's as close as it gets to hydraulic rack and pinion. None of these upgrades are cheap but again, it's personal preference.
 
Some people don't like it using GM parts
What I don't like is the use of offshore GM style master cylinder and booster. Those aren't GM parts, they are cheap generic copies of GM parts. I see a lot of problems in mounting and the geometry of brake pedal attachment. Sometimes the stars align and it bolts together, but from what I see, that often is not the case.

The other issue I see is the use of "one size fits all" that works out to be marginal or undersize for the C bodies.

I have no problem with GM calipers or Ford rotors per se.

IMHO, most of the reasons why people don't like drum brakes is they don't know how to work on them. I saw the same thing when disc brakes became optional... Guys hated disc brakes for the same reason.
 
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perhaps, before you try to start, put a new set of point, cap, wires, scope the gas tank or up in the air, pull sending unit and examine gas tank, DON'T throw away the lock ring and gasket, save and reuse, repro's don't seal, good gas, good spark, she'll run like a new car, may smoke a little if time ahttps://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar-forum/members/halifaxhops.5778/$$ permit, send distributor out for tune-up.
 
Never seen a 67 Fury with a full 360° horn ring, that's pretty cool. The RV2 compressor is pretty cool, it's basically a V2 engine on top of a V8 engine lol.
mymopar.com has service manuals for these, the best resource you can get besides decades of hands-on experience from the guys on this forum.
Electrical wise, get a headlight relay harness, either buy a premade one or make it yourself. That takes a HUGE load off your 50+ year old wiring, since it's no longer trying to get up into the dash, through the headlight switch, then back down out into the headlights. You'll also notice a significant improvement in light output, even with stock sealed beams. This also takes a huge load off the high beam foot switch; mine was already slightly melted at one of the wire terminals because of that.
Speaking of the headlight switch, take the dimmer dial off it and give the contacts on all parts a good clean with some 400 grit sandpaper, particularly the one that rubs on the dimmer dial coil. It's probably got a lot of corrosion from all the power running through it.
If you plan on driving this car beyond weekends or sunday cruises I strongly recommend doing the bulkhead bypass - the power feed terminals that go from the battery to there, and the alternator to there, are undersized for the amount of current that goes through them, and can eventually burn up and melt the connector. Best to replace it all with 10 gauge wiring at a minimum (fatter wires if you're going to add lots of/heavy electrical stuff). You'll probably stumble upon the ammeter bypass mod, some of that info applies to our cars, but the ammeter in Chrysler passenger cars is more than capable of handling a lot of current...it's just the bulkhead connector that's the real problem. Cleaning up the terminals can get you by but better to just bypass those puny terminals.
The next suggestion is replacing the gauges' factory mechanical voltage limiter with a solid state one. The mechanical limiter limits the 12 volts down to 5 that the gauges need but it can fail in a few ways, one of them being that it just lets the full 12 volts go into your gauges frying everything. RTE sell a bunch if you can't make your own, not cheap but they're very well built. I've got one in my car and it's great.
If you ever want to upgrade to electronic ignition and are still rocking the external voltage regulator in the engine bay, replace that with a solid state one too if it's still mechanical - electronic ignition doesn't like voltage fluctuations and the solid state electronics will provide a much steadier flow of power.
If you hate glass fuses you might want to look into flexfuse converters that allow you to stick the more modern blade fuses into glass fuse slots, but this is a questionable mod as they're frigging expensive. There apparently used to be a predecessor called converta-fuse but it seems like the company that made them only did so for five years, from 2013-18.
After watching Uncle Tony's video on drum brake rebuild tricks I actually don't mind them at all now - in fact I don't even know how to use those drum brake spring pliers to get the return springs back on - only way I know how is a screwdriver sitting on the spring anchor as a fulcrum, then pulling the handle towards and over it, and the spring slips right on. Removing them I still need that tool you twist though. Get a good one that has the little groove in it that the spring sits in and acts as a cam, the cheaper ones don't have that and it's much more annoying.
OE disc brake conversions using the 72-onwards spindles would be the best, but I converted the front brakes on mine to disc brakes with the ECI brake kit. Some people don't like it using GM parts (the calipers are from a 78-81 firebird) but they open up a lot of pad options and service parts are very easy to get a hold of as they were used in so many vehicles for several decades, so if you're concerned about that I'd go with that. The instructions also contain a list of part numbers for cross referencing too.
The main reason I converted to discs though was because I do intend to drive it hard, and up and down mountains so drums would be a problem. If you're just driving around town front drums are more than adequate. Drums actually stop quicker than discs (assuming the tyres aren't locked up) but they suck at heat dissipation.
If you don't like the numbness and disconnectedness of the factory steering, Firm Feel does OEM, stage 1, 2 and 3 upgrades. OEM is just refurbishing your box, stage 1 is firmer than the cop car boxes, stage 2 is firmer still, and stage 3 even more so. If you want to go even further, borgeson also has a unit that replaces it with a much lighter one and judging by what the A and B body owners who have this box say, the general consensus is that it's as close as it gets to hydraulic rack and pinion. None of these upgrades are cheap but again, it's personal preference.
That's a lot, Thanks!. Wiring doesn't bother me, these car are a lot more simple than what I'm used to working with. But glass fuses seem interesting lol. Not sure what I'll do there, probably just solve each circuit issue as I get to it. No rush.

Guess I'll be looking up some Uncle Tony youtube videos about drumbrakes. I've only worked on one from a van, and I hated it. Cheaper to rebuild them than converting to disk, that's motivation enough to learn how to work drumbrakes properly. At least I don't have to worry about it today.

I won't change the steering yet, going to see what stock is like first. If it's like driving a boat that's fine, that's what I expect. I only plan to drive around back roads, and occasional town visits.
 
perhaps, before you try to start, put a new set of point, cap, wires, scope the gas tank or up in the air, pull sending unit and examine gas tank, DON'T throw away the lock ring and gasket, save and reuse, repro's don't seal, good gas, good spark, she'll run like a new car, may smoke a little if time ahttps://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar-forum/members/halifaxhops.5778/$$ permit, send distributor out for tune-up.
I'm just going to run from a aux tank or squirt it in with a syringe. If I can get it to run for a 30 seconds or so I'll call it good, even getting it to fire off would be enough to invest more time and money. Good chance I'll need to drop the tank and clean or replace. And I'll just replace the fuel line completely. I'm not going to trust a 30 or 50 year old line for driving.

Are there no replacement distributors? A distributor tune up sounds weird to me, but I'm used to computers not carbs.
 
Anything I should watch out for or any advice before I begin? It'll be my first restore project. It doesn't get have to be a perfect restore, slight modding is acceptable.

As a newbie to the game myself the best advice I would offer; don't start on too many "projects" at once. Unless you have PLENTY of room to store things and lots of time to keep things moving forward you could quickly end up with a pile of parts and a heavy steel slab that doesn't roll out of your garage!

Also, I like to organize pieces in zip lock bags with labels in or on the bag. "Alternator bracket bits", "Intake mounting bolts", etc. Lots of bolts will interchange but shouldn't if you want them to be factory correct.

Take plenty of pictures and then take a few more and maybe even a video.

Related to the first point, don't start buying everything you think you need until the time is close or if there is a long lead time. This is just more stuff to store and you may change your mind as your project progresses. I have a shelf of parts that I bought but have not had the time to install so they just sit there taking up space.

Lot's of great knowledge on this site just make sure you also do your own research.

And to reiterate what others have probably suggested, get a paper copy of the Factory Service Manual and preferably an original as the reprints fall apart in the shop after a few months of referencing them.

Lastly, enjoy yourself and the fruits of your labor as you learn and get to drive your newly restored Fury. Welcome to the forum!
 
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