For Sale 1968 Sport Fury L Code 4 Speed Dana

polara66hardtop · Jul 29, 2015

I agree with 1978 NYB, My son had a 74' Challenger with the 8 3/4 rear, the last year though for any Mopar. 1972 was the last year in an A Body. C body" I don't know.

hergfest · Jul 29, 2015

Its a Dana 53 rear end. 67/68 C-Body 440 4-speed only. Rare rear end.
On price, its been advertised for a bit and it hasn't sold. So value is less than the original listed price.

1978 NYB · Jul 29, 2015

polara66hardtop said:
I agree with 1978 NYB, My son had a 74' Challenger with the 8 3/4 rear, the last year though for any Mopar. 1972 was the last year in an A Body. C body" I don't know.

I believe 1973 was last year for a 8.75 axle for a C-Body. 74-78 C-bodies had 8.25 or 9.25 axles. All the 440's had the 9.25 axle. Everything else had 8.25 axles. Both of my 1978's have 400's and both have 8.25 axles. I have never seen a Formal with 360 or a 400 with a 9.25 axle.

1978 NYB · Jul 29, 2015

1973 E-bodies only came with a 318 or a 340 (last year for 340 in an E-Body). No big block or 6 cylinder available in E-bodies. All the 340's had a 8.75 axle. Not sure about the 318's.

1974 E-bodies only came with a 318 or a 360 (340 not available for 1974 E-Body). No big block or 6 cylinder available in E=Bodies. All the 360's came with a 8.75 axle. Not sure about the 318's.

polara66hardtop · Jul 29, 2015

The biggest reason I bought the 77' Cordoba and the 79' 300 was the heavy duty Pkg, big brakes, and 9 1/4 rear with sway bars. They also came with the 727 non lockup as well, one is the 400 4bbl, and the 360 A74 pkg(300) I wish I could find a magnum GT with the A75 Pkg,(Dodge) but only 1661 were made.
The Differential interchangeability though is interesting, as I sold a 70' Challenger a few years ago that had a 9 1/4 from what I can only assume was a Cordoba in the car.

newheart46 · Jul 29, 2015

Read the entire listing friend, "have original old brown title", not looking for freebee appraisal, I am looking for an honest offer, hagarty values it about $16k in number 3 condition. I also stated I will send many photos to interested buyers. I have described the body, interior and running gear the best that I could, if you call that vague I am sorry. Something to consider.

detmatt · Jul 29, 2015

Very kool car, best of luck finding a new home for it. While Hagerty is a fine insurance company they do sell their policies based on agreed values and while I'm not saying that they pad their value guide but there does seem to be a conflict of interest there.

1978 NYB · Jul 29, 2015

hergfest said:
Its a Dana 53 rear end. 67/68 C-Body 440 4-speed only. Rare rear end.
On price, its been advertised for a bit and it hasn't sold. So value is less than the original listed price.

Yep, we discussed the rare Dana 53 axle in another thread or two in the last couple of years. Available in a couple of rare 4 speed Mopars, 1959 Kaiser's came with them, and a bunch of Jeeps. Parts are extremely hard to find for this axle and some parts can found on Jeep axle websites.

68plymouth383 · Jul 29, 2015

Does that mean you have an open original title? Ie not in your name? How long have you had this car?

newheart46 said:
Read the entire listing friend, "have original old brown title", not looking for freebee appraisal, I am looking for an honest offer, hagarty values it about $16k in number 3 condition. I also stated I will send many photos to interested buyers. I have described the body, interior and running gear the best that I could, if you call that vague I am sorry. Something to consider.

patrick66 · Jul 29, 2015

newheart46 said:
Read the entire listing friend, "have original old brown title", not looking for freebee appraisal, I am looking for an honest offer, hagarty values it about $16k in number 3 condition. I also stated I will send many photos to interested buyers. I have described the body, interior and running gear the best that I could, if you call that vague I am sorry. Something to consider.

Any "WIW?" question involves an appraisal, by definition. You want to know "What is it worth"! How else DO you define your question?

What was said above about Hagerty's "value guide" is exactly that - an average of cars insured by them and the valuation placed on the car by the insured person. They are NOT indicative of the actual market value. So, by your statements, I'm figuring you are expecting an offer from $12K to $15K, am I wrong or right here?

About that "brown title" - is it in your name??? Is it a Georgia title from way back, or another state?

I can't see what is so hard about simply placing a damn price on a car or part and see where it goes. If your phone rings off the hook and your inbox fills to capacity, you know you have it underpriced or priced just right. If you get no response...guess what? It's priced above what the market will support. Too easy.

tbm3fan · Jul 29, 2015

detmatt said:
Very kool car, best of luck finding a new home for it. While Hagerty is a fine insurance company they do sell their policies based on agreed values and while I'm not saying that they pad their value guide but there does seem to be a conflict of interest there.

Not only that but the minimum value they will insure is $5000. When I bought my truck I paid $1200 for it and then called Hagerty. They asked what it was worth and I said $2000 and they told me it had to be $5000. Said ok no problem. They are not that different from other sites that base price on listed price before the car is ever sold.

The other interesting thing about this car on the Hagerty site is that their price appreciation for this from April 2010 - April 2015 is zero. They are all flat as Iowa in appreciation.

polara66hardtop · Jul 29, 2015

In all fairness, Iowa isn't all flat, just most of it! HA HA(Nebraska joke) The car was posted at 9500.00 way to much for the condition. I'll keep my 440 TNT Auto .

69CoronetRT · Jul 29, 2015

polara66hardtop said:
In all fairness, Iowa isn't all flat, just most of it! HA HA(Nebraska joke) The car was posted at 9500.00 way to much for the condition. I'll keep my 440 TNT Auto .

I can tell tbm has never been to Iowa and you've never been west of Lincoln...... ;)

fc7_plumcrazy · Jul 30, 2015

Hi,

some thoughts from me:
I do not know what an "old brown" title in Georgia is.
But any title is fine for me (being a european) and way easier to handle than any "just registration" like it is used in Alabama, Georgia, NY State etc. Those can be a hasle when exporting.
I do really not care whos name is in the title.
If I can get a car with the orignal title from back in the day: perfect
It is a nice piece of history

Your Fury isn't easy. It is desireable due to its drivetrain. The overall condition seems to be a condition #4 car.
It is very hard to judge how good it really is.
Being a performance oriented person I would like to testdrive it to know in what shape it is mechanically. How strong does it run compared to how it should back in 1968? I -personally- wouldn't want a tired engine even if it still runs fine (for the average job, going to shows etc).

Most people would probably want it in very nice to perfect condition.
But it is very difficult to restore a C-body correctly. NOS parts are hard to find, not many reproduction parts available.
It is not like a typical 68-70 B-Body or 70/71 E-Body.

While I can see some people paying good money for a perfectly done car there seems to be only a very small market for projects or cars that deserve a restoration. There are several rare cars out there (ie a 71 Sport Fury GT promo car) that are "drivers" but need a full resto to be perfect.

You were asking 9k, it looks like no one really bite on it.
What kind of people did contact you? Were there serious collectors who had knowledge?
What did they offer?

To me your price doesn't look unreasonable but I am one of the guys who is willing to pay more for a "rare" car that I really want instead of the "condition" of a car. On the other hand I feel like lots of people do not like to do projects anymore and just want to jump in, drive and enjoy. But in a nice&shiny car which gets compliments everywhere.

Just my thoughts

Carsten

69monaco · Jul 30, 2015

I remember one sold on ebay about 5 years ago , also a burgundy red 4 speed fasttop.
Don,t remember if it was a 67 or 68.
They asked or it was sold for around 7,5k.
It was in the same shape as yours or are whe talking about the same car ?

68plymouth383 · Jul 30, 2015

I believe we are...

69monaco said:
I remember one sold on ebay about 5 years ago , also a burgundy red 4 speed fasttop.
Don,t remember if it was a 67 or 68.
They asked or it was sold for around 7,5k.
It was in the same shape as yours or are whe talking about the same car ?

68plymouth383 · Jul 30, 2015

I contacted the seller for more pics. Here's what he sent me that isn't posted here. It is indeed a Dana 53 rear axle. The more I look at the engine the more it looks like a 383, and not a 440.

His statement:
"Zero rust under the car, trunk is thin but workable. I am told it is one of 38 made with the L code 440, A833 4 speed and Dana 60 rear end. It has all the original components and should be restored back original. The car has not been modified or changed in any way from new"