1970 300 Hurst Convertible?
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polara71
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I thought it was two.............
commando1
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See Gary???
That's why mixing 2014 asthetics with a classic design doesn't work.
commando1
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I'm having trouble with that. Here's why:
There's nothing in the VIN that calls out a 300 Hurst from a 300 specifically.
During a title application, a DMV cluck entering in the VIN and a model description saying 1970 300H from a bill of sale would not have rung any computer bells. It would have gone through.
Yes, a 300 Hurst would have had to have those first seven digits.
As well as any 1970 non-Hurst 300's with a U code 440 built in Jefferson.
Get my point?
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Stan's right about the VINs; it's a regular 70 300 TNT coded car from Jefferson; you should find the A12 Special order code, accent stripe delete and I think they also have the same scheduled day of production code of Jan25 on the Fender tag even if they're actually built over a period of several months starting in. Jan. 1970.
bluefury361
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True. A12 should appear on the data plate on all 300H Chryslers and is the only ID, (aside from the broadcast sheet).
polara71
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polara71
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I hate forgetting everything ....... I just cant hold all this information, read it today, forget it tomorrow.
polara71
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I've read this same conversation a dozen times in the past seventeen years ....... and I still forget... I'm gonna beat you to the home Stan
goodneighbour
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So do these two droptops still exist?
69CoronetRT
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Are you sure A12 appears on the tag?
Wouldn't a better identifier be the 125 SPD and J99 VON?
Don't know. Here to learn.
bluefury361
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The 125 is the scheduled build date which would be in line with the 300H but not conclusive as many 300's aside from the H would have been on order also.
The order number is normally a 6 digit number, The first digit on this tag looks almost like a strikeover, not sure whats going on there.
Everything on this tag points to a 300H. The lack of the A12 group code makes it suspect as to it being a 300H. All I've seen have had the code on the tag. (Wouldn't be the first time a code was left off the data tag). Could be a white 300 with gold stripe and tan interior.
You'd need the broadcast sheet to verify.
69CoronetRT
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Thanks. I'm thinking the earliest cars didn't code the A12 but could be wrong.
bluefury361
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Example:
In 69 the A12 was the designation for the 440 6bbl on Road Runners and 440 Six Pack on Super Bee's.
A few of the first cars had an "H" VIN engine code, (383HP), but all had A12 stamped into the data tag. The vast majority of the 69 A12 cars carried a "M" VIN engine code, (special order V8). All of them had a "E63", (383 HP), data tag engine code and were designated as 383 engine delete cars. The A12 was a optional group package which included the 440 3-2bbl engine. Therefore the A12 overroad any other engine codes.
The data tags are a great source of general info about a car but were sublect to miss strikes and deletions. the broadcast sheet is the holy grail.
patrick66
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A similar issue applies to the factory-built '69 Dart GTS 440 cars. First is the misconception that these cars were sent to Hurst-Campbell for the installation of the 440, which is wrong - the '69s were assembly-line built 440 cars. Next is the A12 fender tag code, which appeared only on the last batch of 440 Darts and '69 'Cudas built, of the six Dart and three 'Cuda batches built. The 900XXX code in the special order area of the fender tag is the way to definitively ID a 440 car, plus the LS23M9 in the VIN.
Now, if this seller has title to BOTH cars, I could see a deal for the right money. But, if he has title to ONLY the coupe and someone tries to title the ragtop with that VIN, then all hell breaks loose if an unwary buyer tries to resell that car later on.
Now, if this seller has title to BOTH cars, I could see a deal for the right money. But, if he has title to ONLY the coupe and someone tries to title the ragtop with that VIN, then all hell breaks loose if an unwary buyer tries to resell that car later on.
commando1
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So this is a clone where the title description is made up. Yes. Why did we have to drag it out of you?
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